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silentlurker

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Honestly the suggestion that an automated MG would be able to shoot down even 100 drones is ridiculous. Machine guns are designed for fire suppression, not shooting down drones with tiny cross-sections.

Here's a quote on the accuracy of the .50 MG used by US troops (same caliber as the MG on the Type-15 but some accuracy differences probably exist)

"At a range of 1400 yards, with a standing silhouette on a 12'x12' target backer, a 50-shot group hit the backer 49 times, but hit the silhouette only 8 times."

The size of the human silhouette is not mentioned, but generally they're anywhere from 40x60 to 50x70 cm.
 
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silentlurker said:
Honestly the suggestion that an automated MG would be able to shoot down even 100 drones is ridiculous. Machine guns are designed for fire suppression, not shooting down drones with tiny cross-sections.

Here's a quote on the accuracy of the .50 MG used by US troops (same caliber as the MG on the Type-15 but some accuracy differences probably exist)

"At a range of 1400 yards, with a standing silhouette on a 12'x12' target backer, a 50-shot group hit the backer 49 times, but hit the silhouette only 8 times."

The size of the human silhouette is not mentioned, but generally they're anywhere from 40x60 to 50x70 cm.
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What you need against drone are autocannons that pump out 20-30mm explosive projectiles that relies on shrapnel to saturate a given flight path. Essentially those self propelled AA guns like Gepard.

You might be able to get away with some high velocity grenade launchers, but none of these viable platforms are man-portable.

Given that armor are increasingly used in urban combat, perhaps there is a possible convergence between the Russian BMPT armor support vehicle and SPAAG.
 
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FishWings

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steel21 said:
Given that armor are increasingly used in urban combat, perhaps there is a possible convergence between the Russian BMPT armor support vehicle and SPAAG.
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I'm about 100% sure there is already a SPAAG based on a Type 59 chassis, so all that's needed now is some ERA on it and it's 'modern' ;)
 
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FishWings said:
I'm about 100% sure there is already a SPAAG based on a Type 59 chassis, so all that's needed now is some ERA on it and it's 'modern' ;)
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You also need some kind of EO/IR and AESA radar, something similar to what is mounted on T-14.

And smart munitions that can be fused for point targets in urban setting, or proximity for drones.

And these munitions needs to produced in scale so that they are 1/10 to 1/100 the cost of the cheapest viable DJI drone.
 
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steel21 said:
What you need against drone are autocannons........
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No... what you need, is this:

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Fantastic202

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by78 said:
Based on this and other recent images, the remote weapons stations mount both a machine gun and a grenade launcher as a standard configuration. The RWS should also be capable of high elevation, so as to use the machine gun for short-range AA purposes.

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Looks like a QLZ-04 from the photos we've got, must be belt fed from bellow in some external bo
 
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