Zhuhai Airshow 2016

@shen- it's important to understand what passes for thinking among neocons and liberal interventionists, and how they chip away at the democratic process to advance their goal of remaking the world in America's image. Only their vision of America is flawed and doesn't resemble the real thing. Their actions are also against the wishes of the American people. The fact these people would trash the Constitution, expressed through the American people, to pursue global hegeomy is all we need to know about them.

Consider historical fact no one took the Brown Shirts seriously in the 1920s and 30s, but Hitler eventually came to power. I'm not saying neocons/liberal interventionists are as bad as Nazis, no one is, and I'm framing them to the logical extreme for illustration purposes, but the best way to ensure they stay out of power is to expose them for the dangerous zealots they are. These people are the last of the believers, and even after Donald Trump ran most of them out of town, they still can't be taken lightly.

It's both, and it's OK to read those articles, at least then you can be sure that the contrarian view is idiotic.

Blackstone said:

Interesting and contrarian take on China's air show by a security pundit, Andes Corr.

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Other U.S. companies have also seen their technology adopted by Chinese aero-defense designers. In 2008 the U.S. sent two Boeing C-17 cargo planes to China with relief supplies after an earthquake. In 2013, China unveiled the Y-20, a similar-looking cargo plane that also flied in Zhuhai this month. The Y-20 has likely supplied China’s illegal island-building in the South China Sea. In 2016, China built hangers on its militarized islands capable of accommodating the Y-20.

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So besides "Z-20 is a "copy" of blackhawk", you are stating or inferring that Y-20 is a "copy" of C-17? What else? Let me say it for you, J-10 is a "copy" of Lavi, J-20 is a "copy" of Eurofighter/Rafale, 052C/D is a "copy" of Arleigh Burke and so on and so on. I will leave the question of 055 being "copy" of what to you as none has seen it. But I am sure by your standard, saturn v is a copy of V-2 (Vergeltungswaffe 2).

With Trump winning and the Pivot getting shredded into pieces, I expect more and more of these democrazy activists to cry at the top of their lungs, while their ersatz-religion is getting blown the crap out left and right.

"Technology rightfully belongs to the democratic countries"

I wonder of this guy is on suicide watch yet.

taxiya said:

So besides "Z-20 is a "copy" of blackhawk", you are stating or inferring that Y-20 is a "copy" of C-17? What else? Let me say it for you, J-10 is a "copy" of Lavi, J-20 is a "copy" of Eurofighter/Rafale, 052C/D is a "copy" of Arleigh Burke and so on and so on. I will leave the question of 055 being "copy" of what to you as none has seen it. But I am sure by your standard, saturn v is a copy of V-2 (Vergeltungswaffe 2).

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Entertaining retort, here are my replies:

• Z-20 is Copyhawk alright, sure as the sun is bright
  
• Now Y-20 a copy of C-17 is a new one, I always thought it was independently developed, with inspirations from other heavy transports, but you might be right on that... need to check with Carnac the Magnificent
  
• J-10 a Lavi copy is old news, and there's a ring of truth to it
• J-20 has nothing to do with Eurofighter/Rafael, it is developed with assistance from stolen F-22 and F-35 technology
• Type 52 C/D copy of Arleigh Burkes? Interesting suggestion, and it's better than even odds they have stolen Burke technology in them
• Saturn V was developed by the inventor of the V-2 rocket, Wernher von Braun, so there's a direct link

Blackstone said:

Entertaining retort, here are my replies:

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See my inline replies.

• Z-20 is Copyhawk alright, sure as the sun is bright. You are sure, not others. case rest.
  
• Now Y-20 a copy of C-17 is a new one, I always thought it was independently developed, with inspirations from other heavy transports, but you might be right on that... need to check with Carnac the Magnificent
  • Don't put your words in my mouth. I thought you know I was teasing you? My original words was "Let me say it for you"
• J-10 a Lavi copy is old news, and there's a ring of truth to it.
  • Until you show some of the "truth", it is just rumors to others. Don't you know this "innocent until proven otherwise"?
• J-20 has nothing to do with Eurofighter/Rafael, it is developed with assistance from stolen F-22 and F-35 technology.
  • Are you suggesting that the U.S. intelligence agencies are incompetent idiots?
• Type 52 C/D copy of Arleigh Burkes? Interesting suggestion, and it's better than even odds they have stolen Burke technology in them
  • Again, don't put your words in my mouth, see above.
• Saturn V was developed by the inventor of the V-2 rocket, Wernher von Braun, so there's a direct link
  • I did not say it, again I "mistakenly" think you were able to see my teasing.

When you said "Entertaining", you must have got my point of teasing rather than seriously suggesting the "copies". Putting your own words in other's mouth and arguing against them are like arguing with yourself, not honest and not smart, I am afraid.

@taxiya- you didn't see my tongue-in-cheek? Look up Carnac the Magnificent for reference.

Blackstone said:

@taxiya- you didn't see my tongue-in-cheek? Look up Carnac the Magnificent for reference.

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can't see your tongue through my keyboard. and no time and not interested about "Carnac the Magnificent".

Seriously, I am not a native English speaker, so you have to forgive me to rely more on literal meaning of your words.

Just for you, taxiya, I present Carnac the Magnificent!

I said it before and I say it again, why does everyone is obsessed with China copying?

All nation does it, includes US, as early the US founding in the 1700s, they steal technology from Europe, they even put up advertisements in newspaper to openly attract immigrant who will bring in technology to help US develop. Just look up Samuel Slater, aka "Father of the American Industrial Revolution" to US, and aka "Slater the Traitor" to UK.

And that was not the first time US did it, both US and USSR scoop up Nazi and Imperial Japanese scientist at end of WW2 to develop their own technology. And I see NOTHING wrong with it, just I see nothing wrong with China trying to reverse engineering or hacking US companies for technology.

In fact, its expected for any nation that wants to develop its own technology to steal other nation's technology, if US don't want to be hacked... beef up your cyber security!!!!! Don't blame other people for stealing your secrets... because they are suppose to do that!!!!!

Do a simple brain exercise, if US and China were reversed, if China have technology far ahead of all other nations on earth, do you think US won't try to steal it?