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WZ-10 Update Discussion
This discussion is for the Sinodefense WZ-10 page:
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On Global Security, they have quite a bit of info on the WZ-10's (speculated?) specs and systems:
WZ-10 Attack Helicopter
The PLA Army Aviation lacks an attack helicopter such as the AH-64 Apache or Mi-28 Havoc. The limited attack helicopter force consists of 30-40 WZ-9s and 8 SA-342L Gazelles, along with 60 Mi-17 Hips with unguided rocket launchers.
The primary mission for the treetop hugging WZ-10 is battlefield interdiction, eliminating the enemy ground fixed and mobile forces, and concurrently certain air combat ability.
Development of a dedicated attack helicopter began in the mid-1990s at the 602 Institute and Changhe Aircraft Industry Company (CHAIC) in Jingdezhen, Jiangxi Province. The new WZ-10 (Wuzhuang Zhisheng-10) is apparently similar to the South African Rooviak and Italian Agusta A129. The design uses the power plant and transmission derived from the Harbin Z-9, with the fuselage modified to accommodate two pilots.
The helicopter can carry up to 8 ATGMs, or IR-guided short-range AAMs. Although the helicopter might still not be as capable as the U.S. AH-64 Apache, it will probably play a significant role in Army Aviation modernisation and force compabilities.
According to another report, the PLA orignally selected the the MI-35 but chose the Rranco-German Tiger as the source of emulation. Around 1991-92 the PLA leased a single Pakistani AH-1 for technical evaluation.
Future upgrades to the WZ-10 will include sensor package carried on the Z-11 light helicopter that will improve target acquisition. The WZ-10 is equipped with FLIR thus allowing an operations in all weather.
The helicopter's net weight is approximately 5,543 kilograms. The helicopter approximate length is 14.15 meters, is 3.84 meters high, and is roughly 4.25 meters at its widest point.
The WZ-10 is believed to be equipped with flight transmission system from the Z-9. The main rotar consists of 4 blades made up of a compound material. The diameter of the blades is approximately 12 meters length. The WZ-10 has a non-traditional design that uses composite and radar absorbant materials.
The WZ-10 is believed to have two European MTR 390 turboshafts, though concrete information on the system is not entirely clear. The navigation and avionics are probably from domestic sources. The navigation system consists of radioaltimeter, doppler radar and GPS.
Reports indicate that the WZ-10 has an optics system that relays sensor information to the pilots helmets; essentially a system similar to the US Integrated Helmet and Display Sighting System (IHADSS). The helmet system also controls the direction that the machine gun is aiming. This allows the pilots to have an improved situation awareness as they can monitor flight systems and observe the terrain.
Two wings along the fuselage that are roughly 4.32 meters long may carry 1,500 kilograms of munitions, including a 57.0 mm multibarrel rockets, the red arrow anti-tank missile. A 23 mm machine gun is fixed to the cabin at the front of the helicopter.
The fire control system is similar to the French Starry Night digital integration design.
The cabin's bulletproof glass may resist 7.62 millimeter ammunition and composite armor under the cabin resists 12.7 millimeters machine gun fires. The cabin is equipped to maximize fire protection and thw WZ-10 is also outfitted with ejection seats similar to the Ka-50.
The WZ-10 is also equipped with radar warning systems and with systems that will alert the crew that it has been targetted with laser range finders. The helicopter is also equipped with passive countermeasures and in an effort to reduce fratricide is equipped with IFF.
Future upgrades to the WZ-10A will likely include new a radar, fire control systems, infrared exhaust suppression and the ability to be flown from naval vessels.
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How much of their info do you think is credible?
This discussion is for the Sinodefense WZ-10 page:
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On Global Security, they have quite a bit of info on the WZ-10's (speculated?) specs and systems:
WZ-10 Attack Helicopter
The PLA Army Aviation lacks an attack helicopter such as the AH-64 Apache or Mi-28 Havoc. The limited attack helicopter force consists of 30-40 WZ-9s and 8 SA-342L Gazelles, along with 60 Mi-17 Hips with unguided rocket launchers.
The primary mission for the treetop hugging WZ-10 is battlefield interdiction, eliminating the enemy ground fixed and mobile forces, and concurrently certain air combat ability.
Development of a dedicated attack helicopter began in the mid-1990s at the 602 Institute and Changhe Aircraft Industry Company (CHAIC) in Jingdezhen, Jiangxi Province. The new WZ-10 (Wuzhuang Zhisheng-10) is apparently similar to the South African Rooviak and Italian Agusta A129. The design uses the power plant and transmission derived from the Harbin Z-9, with the fuselage modified to accommodate two pilots.
The helicopter can carry up to 8 ATGMs, or IR-guided short-range AAMs. Although the helicopter might still not be as capable as the U.S. AH-64 Apache, it will probably play a significant role in Army Aviation modernisation and force compabilities.
According to another report, the PLA orignally selected the the MI-35 but chose the Rranco-German Tiger as the source of emulation. Around 1991-92 the PLA leased a single Pakistani AH-1 for technical evaluation.
Future upgrades to the WZ-10 will include sensor package carried on the Z-11 light helicopter that will improve target acquisition. The WZ-10 is equipped with FLIR thus allowing an operations in all weather.
The helicopter's net weight is approximately 5,543 kilograms. The helicopter approximate length is 14.15 meters, is 3.84 meters high, and is roughly 4.25 meters at its widest point.
The WZ-10 is believed to be equipped with flight transmission system from the Z-9. The main rotar consists of 4 blades made up of a compound material. The diameter of the blades is approximately 12 meters length. The WZ-10 has a non-traditional design that uses composite and radar absorbant materials.
The WZ-10 is believed to have two European MTR 390 turboshafts, though concrete information on the system is not entirely clear. The navigation and avionics are probably from domestic sources. The navigation system consists of radioaltimeter, doppler radar and GPS.
Reports indicate that the WZ-10 has an optics system that relays sensor information to the pilots helmets; essentially a system similar to the US Integrated Helmet and Display Sighting System (IHADSS). The helmet system also controls the direction that the machine gun is aiming. This allows the pilots to have an improved situation awareness as they can monitor flight systems and observe the terrain.
Two wings along the fuselage that are roughly 4.32 meters long may carry 1,500 kilograms of munitions, including a 57.0 mm multibarrel rockets, the red arrow anti-tank missile. A 23 mm machine gun is fixed to the cabin at the front of the helicopter.
The fire control system is similar to the French Starry Night digital integration design.
The cabin's bulletproof glass may resist 7.62 millimeter ammunition and composite armor under the cabin resists 12.7 millimeters machine gun fires. The cabin is equipped to maximize fire protection and thw WZ-10 is also outfitted with ejection seats similar to the Ka-50.
The WZ-10 is also equipped with radar warning systems and with systems that will alert the crew that it has been targetted with laser range finders. The helicopter is also equipped with passive countermeasures and in an effort to reduce fratricide is equipped with IFF.
Future upgrades to the WZ-10A will likely include new a radar, fire control systems, infrared exhaust suppression and the ability to be flown from naval vessels.
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How much of their info do you think is credible?
Re: the real WZ 10
I think even the biggest unbelivers (me
) can now swallow it...
WZ-10, welcome:china:
I think even the biggest unbelivers (me
) can now swallow it...WZ-10, welcome:china:
Re: the real WZ 10
Yup, i'll also say that out of all the alleged wz10 pics out there, this one is by far most credible looking. Not only is quality high enough to make it rather difficult for it to be a PS job (though thats never 100%) but some of its features are now distinctly seen, ruling out the possiblity it's some other chopper being used instead of wz10.
Having said that, i must say it's looking pretty good from outside, and given the right avionics/weapons, it might be quite comparable to Tiger.
Yup, i'll also say that out of all the alleged wz10 pics out there, this one is by far most credible looking. Not only is quality high enough to make it rather difficult for it to be a PS job (though thats never 100%) but some of its features are now distinctly seen, ruling out the possiblity it's some other chopper being used instead of wz10.
Having said that, i must say it's looking pretty good from outside, and given the right avionics/weapons, it might be quite comparable to Tiger.
Diving Falcon
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Re: the real WZ 10
With the kind of advancements China has made on the J-10 and JF-17's avionics, I'm sure as hell the WZ-10 is going to have an awesome avionics suite. China is developing a guided anti-tank missile as well, isn't it?
With the kind of advancements China has made on the J-10 and JF-17's avionics, I'm sure as hell the WZ-10 is going to have an awesome avionics suite. China is developing a guided anti-tank missile as well, isn't it?
Re: the real WZ 10
Great, this latest pic is entirely consistent with the previous two most-credible ones:
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=186&d=1141411623
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=187&d=1141411623
And my artist’s impression was very close (Whoopee for me!):
Great, this latest pic is entirely consistent with the previous two most-credible ones:
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=186&d=1141411623
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=187&d=1141411623
And my artist’s impression was very close (Whoopee for me!):
Re: the real WZ 10
Afterall the PS pics of the Wz-10 finally, now like Golly, I'm convinced.
Now does anyone know about the procurment process? Just how many will be delivered to the PLA forces? Is there a navalized version?
Fianlly congradulations to the PRC for producing the "real deal":china:
Afterall the PS pics of the Wz-10 finally, now like Golly, I'm convinced.
Now does anyone know about the procurment process? Just how many will be delivered to the PLA forces? Is there a navalized version?
Fianlly congradulations to the PRC for producing the "real deal":china:
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