Z-10 thread

[HKSDU]

Well thing really is that attack helo chain gun isn't really there to so much punch holes in heavy amour, it works by obliterating the vehicle and essentially ripping it up with rapier like shots

In that sense 30mm and 23mm isn't that different, obviously 30mm is a heavier calibre and so better but at the end of the day chain gun against light infantry will make them duck no matter if it's 23 or 30mm

For punch holes you use ATGM or armour piercing rockets, only down side of WZ-10 is obvious lack of attention paid to reduce engine exhaust no engine flaps no engine covers or exhaust modifications just open exhaust on both sides very vulnerable to its biggest threat, IR missiles

Think that has more to do with the lack of power with the engines. a lot of constraints and areas are constraint when your engines lack power. so only the crucial things are kept in place, while the other areas are added on when more sufficient power is provided.

I can a variation to the Z-10 when higher power ouput engines are available.

 

[Lion]

Think that has more to do with the lack of power with the engines. a lot of constraints and areas are constraint when your engines lack power. so only the crucial things are kept in place, while the other areas are added on when more sufficient power is provided.

I can a variation to the Z-10 when higher power ouput engines are available.

But currently, the WZ-10 does not exhibit any sight of underpower. The performance more or less comfirm the excellent power of the turboshaft install in WZ-10. If its really under powered. It will not even able to execute those moves.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

But currently, the WZ-10 does not exhibit any sight of underpower. The performance more or less comfirm the excellent power of the turboshaft install in WZ-10. If its really under powered. It will not even able to execute those moves.

Exactly the idea that WZ 10 is under power is nothing but rumor with no basis at all. Seeing what they can do convince me that the naysayer have been wrong all the time

Any helicopter that can do flip like this is not underpower

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[asif iqbal]

The question is what's enough? Theres always scope for more, even the Apache AH-64E could do with more, question is what's the point

Currently there is no effort to suppress heat exhaust, what can be the only plausible reason, well it's not hard to see it would be the engine

And if the WZ-9 engine is good enough why hell would be a WZ-16 be under developed, for the current use I figure the current Powerplant is enough but like everything they have a improvement in the pipeline which would be better lift and better cover for the heat exhaust

I guess if something kicks off and Z10 is called in they could fit something to protect the engine exhaust with some compromises but as of now it looks fine

So although currently sufficient Powerplant a more powerful one will enhance its capabilitys

 

[Lion]

The question is what's enough? Theres always scope for more, even the Apache AH-64E could do with more, question is what's the point

Currently there is no effort to suppress heat exhaust, what can be the only plausible reason, well it's not hard to see it would be the engine

And if the WZ-9 engine is good enough why hell would be a WZ-16 be under developed, for the current use I figure the current Powerplant is enough but like everything they have a improvement in the pipeline which would be better lift and better cover for the heat exhaust

I guess if something kicks off and Z10 is called in they could fit something to protect the engine exhaust with some compromises but as of now it looks fine

So although currently sufficient Powerplant a more powerful one will enhance its capabilitys

WZ-16 turboshaft main usage will be for Z-15 because PLA wants a helo with decent lifting power. Yes, it can still be used on WZ-10 but WZ-16 main reason for creating is for Z-15.

 

[asif iqbal]

WZ-16 turboshaft main usage will be for Z-15 because PLA wants a helo with decent lifting power. Yes, it can still be used on WZ-10 but WZ-16 main reason for creating is for Z-15.

Rubbish do you even know that Z15 isn't even confirmed for PLA service

Z15 is first and foremost a commercial project which has many military projects with greater priority ahead of it

 

[Lion]

Rubbish do you even know that Z15 isn't even confirmed for PLA service

Z15 is first and foremost a commercial project which has many military projects with greater priority ahead of it

Rubbish? Does it take away the fact, or you think WZ-16 turboshaft is not for Z-15 and for WZ-10 only? Civilian market wants a helo with decent lifting power and harbin create one for them and decide to used WZ-16 turboshaft. Any problem with that? Or you suddenly want to say z-15 is just a fantasy. WZ-16 is solely for WZ-10?

 

[Lion]

Exactly the idea that WZ 10 is under power is nothing but rumor with no basis at all. Seeing what they can do convince me that the naysayer have been wrong all the time

Any helicopter that can do flip like this is not underpower

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I tell you what, the naysayer will continue to be in their delusion and claim WZ-10 agility is achieved at the expense of non armour. Even an air rifle is enough to pierce thru it and killed the helo.

I shall say naysayer shall go and get a life. WZ-10 is definitely not under powered and is confirmed armour in new the video show recently. If WZ-10 is crapped so as euro tiger since both share very similiar in weight to engine spec. But you see, hardly any report claim it under power. Typical western smearing campaign about WZ-10.

 

[asif iqbal]

I tell you what, the naysayer will continue to be in their delusion and claim WZ-10 agility is achieved at the expense of non armour. Even an air rifle is enough to pierce thru it and killed the helo.

I shall say naysayer shall go and get a life. WZ-10 is definitely not under powered and is confirmed armour in new the video show recently. If WZ-10 is crapped so as euro tiger since both share very similiar in weight to engine spec. But you see, hardly any report claim it under power. Typical western smearing campaign about WZ-10.

Well that just sums up how much you know about helicopters

Doing a loop has nothing to do with engine power but aerodynamics, even a Little Bird can do a loop big freggin deal

Engine power is reflected by armour and armaments carried, can WZ-10 lift 16 anti-tank missiles?? End of story anything else and your just giving your own opinion for which I have no time to waste

 

[Lion]

Well that just sums up how much you know about helicopters

Doing a loop has nothing to do with engine power but aerodynamics, even a Little Bird can do a loop big freggin deal

Engine power is reflected by armour and armaments carried, can WZ-10 lift 16 anti-tank missiles?? End of story anything else and your just giving your own opinion for which I have no time to waste

LOLzz. Sorry for wasting your time. More or less you show your great knowledge regards to helicopter with that comment of yours. Continue your naysaying of WZ-10 under power. Chief designer of WZ-10 shall seek your advise on how to design a helo, happy?

Can euro tiger carry 16 anti tank missile? Plus there is no confirmation WZ-10 cannot carry 16 anti-tank missile. But is it due to mission profile or its engine limit. Nobody can confirm that but somebody is quick to pick an answer.