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[TerraN_EmpirE]

The Issue it seems or at least it has been reported is that the Church was supposed to be rated for a smaller congregation. it was built four times the size the state demanded. which in my view should have had the building inspector take a look and make sure it was up to spec and if it was then just issue a new certification. the church looked beautiful And given the price tag it should have been up to spec. So then demolition was more a act of the Party throwing a fit because it was better then they demanded.

 

[plawolf]

Here is the Video. CALM AND RESPECTFUL ? The immigration officer was captured on video dragging the woman several feet, he then proceeded to shove, slap and punch her after she hit him with her handbag.

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Yeah, its always highly suspicious when a piece uses usually specific descriptions like that without an embedded video clip of the incident or at least a link. I see Manilia boy is up to his usual tricks of posting deliberately inaccurate misinformation.

But let's discuss the video for a moment. Firstly the 'official' at the centre of the incident was clearly out of uniform. The woman was screaming and shouting because she was distressed at being manhandled by an identified man who was trying to force her into a private room. I'm going to go out on a limb and say any a lady would be distressed by that and try to resist in her position.

She might have violated immigration law, but that does not strip her of her basic human right to not have her person assaulted by ununiformed strangers.

Just in that short video, we seen this thug manhandle her, shove, drag and slap the women. All in public.

Notice how the woman suddenly get very quiet and the man very vocal after he got her into the privacy of that room. Which makes me extreme suspicious even greater violence was used on the women once she was moved out of the public's view. Validating her intial reaction to resist being forced into a private room by the ununiformed man.

What the man was shouting was also odd. "you think you can do what you want?" Seems pretty out of context for what was happening. If I was a defence attorney for the woman, I would be strongly investigating if this was a racial motivated assault.

The reaction of the two officials actually in uniform was also extremely telling. Both were hanging well back and seemed very nervous. Hardly the reaction you would expect if this was a by the book incident.

 

[solarz]

I don't get why people would willingly travel to countries where you can get kidnapped by armed insurgents or beaten upon by corrupt officials.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

These days Sol' if you stopped going to places like that you would never walk out the front door.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Using the law to hide politics sounds no different from what happens in a democracy.

They were just uneasy about a church just as people are uneasy with a mosques and Buddhist temple in their neighborhood. What people believe about mosques and Buddhist temples is based on paranoia. Then Chinese have a right to be paranoid because of history. So what's the difference?

This subject in this forum is pretty much like that church in China. Why does a church get special consideration? Other buildings get torn down in China. Shall we bring up history to expose the truth to justify paranoia just as some believe like with a mosque or Buddhist temple. Or is it going to get special protection because of self-interest just to satisfy a small segment of the population overriding the majority and people are suppose to be quiet about history? Bring it up and it's subject to be debated. I have no problem with it just as long as I get to argue my points.

I notice in the US, other religions have been relegated to congregating in already established buildings with no obvious markers in order to keep low-key. Building from the ground up would put direct attention through obligated public avenues thus people with their own opinions, political and otherwise, can see what going on and have a say. Do I know this for a fact? No. But they aren't congregating in mosques that were built to look like mosques and Buddhist temples made to look like Buddhist temples. When all that happens in China that's seen as a violation of religious rights.

 

[solarz]

These days Sol' if you stopped going to places like that you would never walk out the front door.

There are plenty of good places to travel. Pickpockets are one thing, freaking armed kidnappers is a whole other thing.

Maybe as a North American I'm just spoiled, since we have access to places like Cuba and Jamaica which are both relatively cheap and safe.

 

[plawolf]

Well to be fair, I think incidents like this will have a strong, negative impact on how desirable a destination ordinary Chinese view certain places.

At the end of they day, if things like this happen and the local authorities white wash it and don't delivery justice, then Chinese tourists and companies will take their billions elsewhere, so who looses out at the end? Not the Chinese.

 

[Engineer]

this move has caused millions of Christians around the world sorrow and heartache for our Chinese brothers and sisters. Maybe as harmful??? is that ultimately, those same Christians will question China's statement that they desire to be "partners and friends" and that brother is possibly the greatest damage of all? brat

Those who are in an uproar are trying to control other people's lives and even governments by hiding behind religion. By questioning God's plans, those people are also contradicting their core belief that God is all powerful. After all, if God doesn't want something to happen, that something wouldn't have happened. That's all I am saying.

 

[AssassinsMace]

It's ironic how there's this woman who's mistreated in the Philippines but there's no sympathy because of being accused of illegally teaching Chinese but an excuse for an illegally constructed building just because of religious associations is seen above the law.

Maybe it's time to do a sweep of illegal Filipino workers in Hong Kong and immediate execution of drug smugglers.

 

[bd popeye]

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Two al Qaeda gunmen tried to kidnap two U.S. Embassy employees in Yemen last month but were shot and killed by one of the Americans, a Yemeni government official told CNN on Saturday.

The attempted kidnapping was carried out by two armed men with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) on April 24, and the fatal shooting occurred near a Yemeni barber shop "where many foreigners and diplomats go to get their hair cut," the Yemeni official said.

The two U.S. Embassy personnel, however, were apparently wayward and shouldn't have been at the barber shop, the official said.

"These individuals violated security protocol," the Yemeni official said. "U.S. Embassy personnel are not allowed to leave their secure facilities. The American who shot the kidnappers had a gun permit and was authorized to carry a gun. The two armed kidnappers were AQAP militants. They weren't unarmed civilians."

Two Yemeni national security officials told CNN the plot against the Embassy is bigger than initially believed.

Another Yemeni government official said both Americans departed Yemen shortly after the incident.

U.S. officials couldn't be immediately reached for comment on the report Saturday.

The revelation of the incident comes after the U.S. Embassy in Yemen was indefinitely shuttered Wednesday amid security concerns and as fighting between security forces and AQAP intensifies, including in the capital, Sanaa.

Just days before the alleged abduction attempt, a joint U.S.-Yemeni operation was being carried out against AQAP in the Abyan and Shabwa regions of Yemen, but authorities did not disclose whether drones were used in the strikes. The use of the unmanned drones has stirred controversy due to the accidental killings of civilians in some cases, a high-level Yemeni official said at the time.

On Saturday, a top Yemen Interior Ministry official said the U.S. government had been considering closing the embassy two weeks ago, as attacks on foreigners intensified. The violence at the barbershop -- as well as violence against other foreigners in the past six weeks -- eventually convinced the Americans to close down the U.S. Embassy this past week, the official said.

Meanwhile, the Yemen Defense Ministry announced that seven more AQAP fighters were killed Saturday in the southern province of Shabwa during clashes with security forces.
Of all al Qaeda-affiliated networks worldwide, AQAP is considered the most dangerous threat to Americans.
Meanwhile, the Yemeni government Thursday expelled U.S. freelance journalist Adam Baron on accusations that "there was an issue with his documentation," the Committee to Protect Journalists said.

On Twitter, Baron said the only official explanation for his deportation was he's "no longer welcome in Yemen." He's written for the Christian Science Monitor and McClatchy and has lived in the Yemen capital since January 2011, his website says.

Hakim Almasmari reported from Yemen.