Why "the West" gets China wrong

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Equation

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Going by the girls name she seems to be Vietnamese rather than Chinese. And the song is about Asians and not specifically about Chinese. I understand that some people will find this video and song offensive. Although i don't think that the band is intensionally being racist.

PS this is the girls Youtube channel if you are interested.;)

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It doesn't matter what Asian ethnicity she is it's another Tila Tequila trash we don't need in society.
 

AssassinsMace

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No they are racist because just because you like something from a race it doesn't mean you're not a racist. Why does one like it? Like I said before if Asian women had penises, does anyone think they would like Asian women then? The only reason they "like" or "love" is because whatever is giving them something in return. Just imagine if everyone in the world judged people simply on the basis of what has this or that person done personally for me. Everyone would hate the vast majority of people in the world simple because they have no personal contact with one another. Plenty of instances where people will love Asian women but hatefully look down at Asian men. Does that make them not racist? Why do they hate Asian men? Because Asian men don't give or serve anything to them personally. Some even will point they will have sex with Asian women which makes them not racist. You mean slave owners didn't have sex with their slaves? Like a racist wouldn't have sex to express dominance making them feel like a conqueror? Ariel Castro who imprisoned three women as his personal sex slaves thinks he wasn't a monster because they all lived in "harmony" together. Just because the criminal thinks he's expressing love, it cannot be a crime? This band seems to follow the same philosophy if they love Asian women they cannot be hateful towards Asians.

Put aside the racism and you have blatant sexism. They love Asian women so it makes it all right. You know how abusive men control women? They tell them they do it out of love. If they didn't love them they wouldn't go to that extreme of being abusive. They would simply not care if there was no love. So Asian women serving them fulfilling their personal sexual desires is about love. That's the reward for being sexual objects for them. Don't serve them and you don't get love. That's a narrow world with little choices because that's how abusers stay in control.
 
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ABC78

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No they are racist because just because you like something from a race it doesn't mean you're not a racist. Why does one like it? Like I said before if Asian women had penises, does anyone think they would like Asian women then? The only reason they "like" or "love" is because whatever is giving them something in return. Just imagine if everyone in the world judged people simply on the basis of what has this or that person done personally for me. Everyone would hate the vast majority of people in the world simple because they have no personal contact with one another. Plenty of instances where people will love Asian women but hatefully look down at Asian men. Does that make them not racist? Why do they hate Asian men? Because Asian men don't give or serve anything to them personally. Some even will point they will have sex with Asian women which makes them not racist. You mean slave owners didn't have sex with their slaves? Like a racist wouldn't have sex to express dominance making them feel like a conqueror? Ariel Castro who imprisoned three women as his personal sex slaves thinks he wasn't a monster because they all lived in "harmony" together. Just because the criminal thinks he's expressing love, it cannot be a crime? This band seems to follow the same philosophy if they love Asian women they cannot be hateful towards Asians.

Put aside the racism and you have blatant sexism. They love Asian women so it makes it all right. You know how abusive men control women? They tell them they do it out of love. If they didn't love them they wouldn't go to that extreme of being abusive. They would simply not care if there was no love. So Asian women serving them fulfilling their personal sexual desires is about love. That's the reward for being sexual objects for them. Don't serve them and you don't get love. That's a narrow world with little choices because that's how abusers stay in control.

Hell if people used this band's way of thinking then all men who rape women can't hate women because he had sexual relations with them. The KKK can't hate black people because they raped black women.
 

ABC78

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Book Discussion on Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White by Frank H Wu
Feb 11, 2002

Mr. Wu talked about his book Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White, published by Basic Books. The book examines racial identity and the future of race relations in America through the experiences of Asian Americans. In it he examines Asian-American stereotypes like “the model minority” and illustrates how these concepts and others have damaged relations between communities. Among the issues he addressed were discrimination, immigration, diversity, globalization, and the mixed-race movement through the perspective of Asian Americans.

[video]http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Yell[/video]
 
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ABC78

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Watch it while you can because the band is removing this video soon but "not now" because of death threats. Yeah, they're the real victims now.

[video=youtube;Y0zlkB-s_Vk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0zlkB-s_Vk[/video]

The band members say it's not racist because they expressing their love for Asian women. Yeah what happened if Asian women had penises? Once they don't personally serve you, you don't like them as much. Also they're not racist because one of their band members is Indonesian. So I guess that makes the Holocaust okay because there were Jewish collaborators who helped the Nazis.

This is also another attempt to normalize yellow fever. So that creeps with yellow fever are not treated like the perverts with power issues like they deserve.

Hell these dbags also are probably offended by black dudes and white women with jungle fever.
 

solarz

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This article is just disgusting. The fact that it is coming from the CBC is even more shameful!

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A young Ontario man travelling in China says he has been blamed for a bike-moped crash and the family of an injured woman is demanding he cover medical expenses.

Jacob Gerow, 20, said he was riding in a rickshaw, which was being dragged by a bike, earlier this week down a road in Huangshan, a mountainous area in the Anhui province in eastern China.

The resident of Alexandria, Ont., added he then asked to take control and when he was riding the bike with the rickshaw driver in the back, he collided with a moped, a low-powered motorcycle.

An elderly woman who was riding on the moped suffered a broken leg and her family is now demanding $20,000 from Gerow to cover the medical costs, the man told CBC News.

'It is not uncommon for foreigners to be blamed for accidents even though they are not at fault."
—Department of Foreign Affairs website
From his hotel room in China, Gerow said he has spent the last two days in his room in fear.

He also said police are not helping him and he feels intimidated, though officers have told him he can leave the hotel.

"The police and the family members are all in different spots and they're trying to be discreet about it," Gerow said. "But I know they're watching me all the time."

Canadians being blamed for traffic incidents
On its website, Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs warns Canadians about being blamed for traffic incidents in China, mentioning driving and not cycling.

"Foreigners driving in China face harsh penalties if they are involved in an accident. Police officers have the right to detain foreigners suspected of being responsible for road accidents until their case is closed, which can take years," the website reads.

"It is not uncommon for foreigners to be blamed for accidents even though they are not at fault."

Gerow has not been officially charged in the crash, he said, but he would accept allegations if that helps him leave the country.

Family willing to offer money
The department of foreign affairs confirmed to CBC News they are helping a Canadian citizen currently in Huangshan, but they would not release a name.

From his home just southeast of Ottawa, Gerow's father Aaron said the family is willing to offer money to help get Jacob home. They are currently working with consular officials in Shanghai.

Meanwhile Jacob Gerow, who was born in Salzburg, Austria, said once he gets out of China he will never travel there again.

"I consider myself adventurous when it comes to travelling. I don't mind doing these sorts of things but I don't want to do this again, that's for sure," Gerow said.

Below is even a poll asking if people have been accused unfairly while traveling abroad! Hey CBC, how about a poll asking people if they've ever injured someone in a traffic accident and tried to shirk responsibility?

$20k for a broken leg in a traffic accident is a nothing. If that happened in Canada, he would easily have been liable for $2 million!
 

shen

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This article is just disgusting. The fact that it is coming from the CBC is even more shameful!

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Below is even a poll asking if people have been accused unfairly while traveling abroad! Hey CBC, how about a poll asking people if they've ever injured someone in a traffic accident and tried to shirk responsibility?

$20k for a broken leg in a traffic accident is a nothing. If that happened in Canada, he would easily have been liable for $2 million!

protest lodged to CBC. disgusting article such as this must be challenged.
 

AssassinsMace

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My friend who's a member in another forum told me there was a thread over there about bad-behaving and even illegal acts by Western expatriates living in China. Apparently lot of incidents of English language teachers molesting children. Someone joined the forum who was "supposedly" an English language teacher in China and warned not to make a big deal about it or Westerners will not go to China and teach English. That just tells how more important they think they are, ergo can commit crimes, to use that as a threat. Apparently the police do little against these criminal expatriates so I don't know why this Canadian is worried about the police doing nothing to protect him. It's equal treatment.
 

shen

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That anecdote reminds me of another western myth about China, that China is a police state. China is actually one of the most under-policed country in the world. The police to population ratio of China is one of the lowest in the world, at a level far below UN minimal recommended level, and of course far below the United States. There are just not enough police, and other law enforcement people to catch all the criminals. That's becoming a bigger problem was the country get richer and society more complex.
Most existing Chinese police are also very poorly trained. Most of them don't know anything about laws or proper investigative techniques.
There is a good documentary film 罪与罚 by 赵亮. It depicts a Chinese PAP unit. The police officers are actually depicted sympathetically, they want to do a good job, but these young men have no law enforcement training whatsoever. When they bring in suspects, their only interrogation technique to to rough them up. All the suspects were released in the end, even the guilty ones, because the police can't find any evidence against them.
The United States government is running a program to provide training for Chinese police if you can believe that. That's probably going to raise some eyebrow among stupid human rights type.
 

ABC78

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No they are racist because just because you like something from a race it doesn't mean you're not a racist. Why does one like it? Like I said before if Asian women had penises, does anyone think they would like Asian women then? The only reason they "like" or "love" is because whatever is giving them something in return. Just imagine if everyone in the world judged people simply on the basis of what has this or that person done personally for me. Everyone would hate the vast majority of people in the world simple because they have no personal contact with one another. Plenty of instances where people will love Asian women but hatefully look down at Asian men. Does that make them not racist? Why do they hate Asian men? Because Asian men don't give or serve anything to them personally. Some even will point they will have sex with Asian women which makes them not racist. You mean slave owners didn't have sex with their slaves? Like a racist wouldn't have sex to express dominance making them feel like a conqueror? Ariel Castro who imprisoned three women as his personal sex slaves thinks he wasn't a monster because they all lived in "harmony" together. Just because the criminal thinks he's expressing love, it cannot be a crime? This band seems to follow the same philosophy if they love Asian women they cannot be hateful towards Asians.

Put aside the racism and you have blatant sexism. They love Asian women so it makes it all right. You know how abusive men control women? They tell them they do it out of love. If they didn't love them they wouldn't go to that extreme of being abusive. They would simply not care if there was no love. So Asian women serving them fulfilling their personal sexual desires is about love. That's the reward for being sexual objects for them. Don't serve them and you don't get love. That's a narrow world with little choices because that's how abusers stay in control.

Here's some more crap guys like them think is endearing but it's just dbaggy.

10 Ridiculously Offensive Things People Tell Asian Women On OkCupid
The Tumblr Creepy White Guys collects messages from “creepy white guys with Asian fetishes.”

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