why doesn't china have/get long range AAM?

america's best is currently aim-120c-7. And the chinese pl12 should be very comparable to it, on paper, concerning easely quantifiable stats like speed/range/warhead etc. Of course, stuff life seeker performance, accuracy, ECCM performance etc is much harder to gather any data about. I'd guess pl12 won't really quite compare in those areas and it might be more along the lines of aim120b performance.

what should really worry chinese is the aim120d, on course to be deployed in us arsenal by 2008. aside of usual improvements in most areas allegedly it features range 50% greater than the 120c version plus a two way datalink and gps guidance.

sd-10 will probaly be out the same time as aim-120d. it can be uypgraded simialarily.

MIGleader said:

sd-10 will probaly be out the same time as aim-120d. it can be uypgraded simialarily.

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who knows whether or not its officially out yet. They still need to complete the test with it on JF-17. I'm guessing the testing on J-11B is probably all finished. The testing on J-10 might still be ongoing.

one: when did the j-11b come out

two: 50%?!?!!? on the 120D!?!?!? errr!

three: if the SD-10 is comparable, then China will be okie

I would like to know where the statement "SARH missiles lack accuracy" comes from.

If you're referring to the Sparrow's dismal performance in Vietnam, do note that the F-4s were required to break engagement, thus FCR tracking, by order of the USN.

Okie before we drift

1. Screw the sparrow

2. Yes China should work on missiles to cripple AWACS

3. It is not why China doesnt get the missile, ITZ THAT CHINA CANT RELY ON RUSSIA'S AMOS!

There isnt any aircraft in China that has true long range fighting capabilities, what is the point for China to get them?

china will get long range radr in the future, so they have to prepare a missle to go with it.

Still! I wish China just buy the friggin foxhound, temporary solution!

AAMs

Chairman Hu,

the Russians I doubt will give the best Interceptor in the world to anyone. The MiG-31 is such a great Machine. I dout they let anyone pay for flights in them. Only SU-27s,SU-25s and the MiG-29s. Honestly my friends (both DOD and civilian) and I are very impressed by the publicized and not very well publicized capabilities of the MiG-31. That bird is damn near the Firefox. lol

As fas as AAMs are, Russia always has had the best rocket motor technical skill. Look at the speeds their AAMs,SAMs,AGMs and SSMs move at compared to the western designs.

TLAM (600 MPH+) Various Russian SSMs (1200-1400 MPH+)

Western missiles have to be accurate for a number of reasons:

Western units plan to be outnumbered, smaller weapons allow more to be used
Western weapons are small so they have smaller warheads
Western warheads are small so they need to make every shot count

The current US made AIM-9M,AIM-7 and AIM-120 work. The AIM-7 from the 1060s was a fire two and hope one hits missile, they were very poor. The AIM9 continues to improve as does the AIM7 but the AIM9X from what I have been told can not beat the AA-11 in range,speed,warhead and other aspects. Either way, I would hate to get hit by either one.

USAF Most A2A kills in 1991 with AIM-7F
IAF Most kills in 1980 made with AIM-9

AIM-54C now retired, $1million US Dollars
100 nm range (trailing target)
210nm range+ (closing target)
classified range (large target)

The US Navy will miss those Bad Boys!!

My favorites out there:

ACM
AA-11/R-77

MRAAM
AIM-120C (But the UK Sky Flash is awesome)

LRAAM

AIM-54C

Re: AAMs

can we plz stop putting US military stuff in these threads.... he was talking about MiG-31 not any USAF stuff.... about the MiG-31, yes it powerful and all but think about teh cost of training and buying them... i rather just arm all my J-8's with SD-10 and use them as the main interceptors