Western Media bias against China

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FreeAsia2000

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This is actually quite interesting.

I find it fascinating how the 'Fox' media of Rupert Murdoch conducts
this campaign of accusing it's competitors of being pro-liberal as a way of destroying their credibility.

Recently we've seen Sky News doing the same thing and accusing the BBC of 'political correctness'. Maybe this is all a strategy plotted by Rupert Murdoch
 

Kampfwagen

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It hink one quote sums it up quite well.

"Those who arent with us, are against us."

Alot of these news stations are still 'recovering' from the Cold War as well as 9/11. Thanks to the Bush administrations 'War On Terror', we now see any 'rouge' state (in otherwords, independent from NATO) as someone to fear and hate.

And being an american, I notice that the popular media and the popular ideas are that states such as China, India and Iran are backwards witchdoctor savages. Most americans would probably be shocked to learn that China has a working space-program, as well as a rapidly modernizing military.

This isint to say that we should not be wary of these states, but to assume the agression would be solely on the shoulders of the united states is a bit baias in of it's self. Whilst alot of the fear is in fact bias, some states such as the DPRK, which is under the rule of a dictator, gratuate of Stalanist-Communisim 101 out of Despot Ruler-U is very worrisome.

Of course, to say that it is inevetable that we or they will start a conflict is a bit silly. It dosent guarntee this much. China, however is nothing like the DPRK, and despite a few old men still wrapped up in the Cold War, from what I have seen China would rather be left alone by the western world.

And as far as FOX News, it's made by the same people who promote "When Animals Attack" and "The OC." I hate to start a political debate here, but FOX news is one of the most Baias news stations on the popular channels, Uber-Conservative Bush Worshipers. Please dont start a whole debate on this, I would hate to drag us all into an off-topic quagmire.

People remember Tinnamen Square, and beleve that it is still like that. However, that was only one incident. And every country has had a situation where deadly force was used on peaceful protesters. There is at least thre instances where Riot Police in America shot and killed protestors who were unarmed. Remember that Texas Universty where the protesters were all shot? The only thing about Tinnamen Square was that, while a horrible event and a loss of life unequaled in such matters, is part of a China that no longer exists. But because of the Cold War Ideologies of news networks, many people refuse to let go.

Every time I talk about how China has improved, people still fall back to Tinnamen Square. It really is unfortunate, but that is how the american people think.

Forgive me, it's hard to term when your a bit rushed. I might revise my statement a bit later.
 
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Schumacher

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Yeah, some of the news commentators/analysts are quite clueless. Look at this piece abt India from a finance page. Especially point #4 which is the guy's view on India vs China. I guess he's never heard abt the plight of the Muslim & Sikh minorities in India or the abuses in Kashmir just to name a few.

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My favourite one is the democracy in India thing. :) Dont't they know India has been a democracy since independence but that never stopped US from siding with Pakistan until recently. India was under a US nuclear embargo until I think last year.
The point is it's US's right to choose who it wants to be strategic partner but it's too funny when one reads that it's due to democracy etc in India when the simple truth is that US now sees China challenging its top dog status & needs help to stay on top.
 

FreeAsia2000

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There's a good book called "Washington, Babylon" by Alexander Cockburn
and Ken Silverstein which documents the links between the media and the powers that be and how the media is 'managed' even in 'democracies'

The problem with controlling the media though is what happens when a country is on the verge of disaster and nobody wants to or is allowed to say it ?

Thus history is full of tyrants who believed their own lies because it was repeated back to them by fearful peasants until disaster overtook them
 

Kampfwagen

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Schumacher said:
Yeah, some of the news commentators/analysts are quite clueless. Look at this piece abt India from a finance page. Especially point #4 which is the guy's view on India vs China. I guess he's never heard abt the plight of the Muslim & Sikh minorities in India or the abuses in Kashmir just to name a few.

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My favourite one is the democracy in India thing. :) Dont't they know India has been a democracy since independence but that never stopped US from siding with Pakistan until recently. India was under a US nuclear embargo until I think last year.
The point is it's US's right to choose who it wants to be strategic partner but it's too funny when one reads that it's due to democracy etc in India when the simple truth is that US now sees China challenging its top dog status & needs help to stay on top.


You wanna know something even crazier? This morning, I heard some people say that they still thought India was under the controll of Britian. :roll:

The Majority of americans are woefuly ignorant.
 
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SampanViking

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Interesting

This Charlie Wheelan is not just another US NeoCon. He is a Brit and former Spin Doctor for Gordon Brown - UK Chancellor of the Exchequer and soon likely to be Labour Party Leader and UK Prime Minister, once Tony blair stands down.

Coming from such a source, I think we hear echoed here, views which are probably HM Govt's position.

Well Well Well. Expect more BS than from a Cattle stampede after eating in Sprout Prune and Senapod field!!
 

MIGleader

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mr. wheelan and his report reminds me of nothing more than some elementary school students trying to write a persuasive essay. his sentence structure is terrible, his format is more than predictable, his imput is highly childlike, and he;s clearly not researched his paper adequately.
 

PiSigma

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considering that the BBC believes USA have a larger territory than China already shows its biased view. it's pretty much common knowledge in the world the biggest nations in order are russia, canada, china, then usa.
 

walter

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PiSigma said:
considering that the BBC believes USA have a larger territory than China already shows its biased view. it's pretty much common knowledge in the world the biggest nations in order are russia, canada, china, then usa.

hmmm... maybe it depends on your source?

from CIA factbook (I know, they surely make US bigger than it really is);)

China:

Area:

total: 9,596,960 sq km
land: 9,326,410 sq km
water: 270,550 sq km
Area - comparative:

slightly smaller than the US


USA:

Area:

total: 9,631,418 sq km
land: 9,161,923 sq km
water: 469,495 sq km
note: includes only the 50 states and District of Columbia
Area - comparative:

about half the size of Russia; about three-tenths the size of Africa; about half the size of South America (or slightly larger than Brazil); slightly larger than China; almost two and a half times the size of the European Union

it is interesting to note that China, as measured by land only, is slightly larger than the US, but when bodies of water are included the US is larger.

from national geographic:

China: Area 9,596,960 sq km (3,705,405 sq mi)
USA: Area 9,826,630 sq km (3,794,083 sq mi)

I am assuming they included Peurto Rico and maybe some other Islands belonging to the US?

Anyway, it seems the US can be defined as just Continental US, all 50 states plus DC, or all states and all territories--you come up with a different answer for each scenario.

I didn't bother looking at any other sources, what do Chinese sources say?
 
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