US Navy & PLAN - South China Sea Situation News (Closed)
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Probably media dramatization. Unless there is serious escalation, at this point, more Chinese (and Americans) are concerned about the economy, the stock market, the latest gossips, what's for dinner, and a long list of other items, than this incident at South China Sea. Some may not even notice what has happened.
An accelerated and extended development of those artificial islands, formal complaints, timely patrols, and enhanced communications, maybe adequate as a response from China for now, barring serious escalation. And so far, the naval commanders on both sides seem cool.
China had already told US it wants the west side of pacific. That's where the next struggle will take place. It will be between first and second chain. As China continues to grow, it will want more and more power in its backyard and to expand its backyard. That's not something Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Phillipines want. US is involved because it has allies in the region and it cannot be shut out from an area of this world and still be considered the lone superpower. But if it feels like it, it can easily go for a much lower profile in the region.
And in 10 years as China and India both continue to grow, they will collide into each other in a much stronger way. So in the future, China's biggest geopolitical struggles will be with its neighbours and other Asian powers. What's happening is a by product of China's rapidly expanding influence and neighbour's resistance. This is not western propaganda. You barely hear anything about it in the news or in any of the presidential debates.
You just hope things don't get overly heated and a conflict starts because of this.
One thing I find troubling is majority of people and media in US and in the west believe US can easily clean China's clock in a few days in conventional conflict and make China surrender in a few days. That's why you see a big pile of pressure from media, scholars , military on administration to act tough on China and they wouldn't mind a open conflict breakout because they believe US forces will win easily.
Maybe China can borrow a page from Pak , it uses tactical nukes to deter a stronger India. Tactical nuke can limit the scope of the conflict. They can be hosted in every major surface combatant ship or sub. they can used as equalizer and deterrence, at least can give something for the overly anticipating media , people to think about.
Most US media believe as long as US doesn't touch mainland, the PLAN forces can be wiped out without too much consequence. hence, that's where tactical nukes values on ships and subs come in.
Maybe China can borrow a page from Pak , it uses tactical nukes to deter a stronger India. Tactical nuke can limit the scope of the conflict. They can be hosted in every major surface combatant ship or sub. they can used as equalizer and deterrence, at least can give something for the overly anticipating media , people to think about.
Most US media believe as long as US doesn't touch mainland, the PLAN forces can be wiped out without too much consequence. hence, that's where tactical nukes values on ships and subs come in.
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Remember this incident? Whatever the interpretation, NK is left alone afterward.
Don't be ridiculous, China is not NK.
Thankfully not comparable, but even minuscule nukes made some impact.
Your presumption that I did not read it "from the first sentence," is a presumption that is both wrong, and somewhat offensive.
I did.read it all, and I quoted a relevant part. If you disagree with the post you posted...I cannot help that. But this relevant part of your post simply made the point .
If the US Military was involved in those things, then according to your post, they would need permission.
No, not at all.
They are meaningful in their own right.
The US simply punctuates FON. FON is exactly what it implies.
Freedom of Navigation.
As long as international law and norms with respect to a nation's actual territorial waters are not violated, any nation has FON.
The US will, as it has said, simply make that point within international waters anywhere it desires. it will allow others to do the same...including the PLAN which has doen so on several occasions.
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