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taxiya

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... The MQ-25 has a flush mounted top intake for its engine. I am sure there are many other examples of aircraft with that configuration. Do the intakes for the B-21 count? What about the B-2?
To clarify, my post (sarcastic) was related to people who criticize J-36's top mounted intake, DSI or not wasn't the issue.

Regarding your examples, I would caution to use them because they are all subsonic aircrafts. The LM proposal should be a supersonic one which needs to handle supersonic air flow and shockwave. The proposal is a CGI, what solution LM choose for the real thing is still open, either a DSI or a caret with a boundry layer gap.
 
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SlothmanAllen

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To clarify, my post (sarcastic) was related to people who criticize J-36's top mounted intake, DSI or not wasn't the issue.

Regarding your examples, I would caution to use them because they are all subsonic aircrafts. The LM proposal should be a supersonic one which needs to handle supersonic air flow and shockwave. The proposal is a CGI, what solution LM choose for the real thing is still open, either a DSI or a caret with a boundry layer gap.
Apologies. I didn't understand the history of a top mounted intake commentary so it seemed kind of strange to me.

EDIT: Unrelated, but Bell put out some new renders of the MV-75 a while back that show some differences between it and the V-280 Valor.

MV-75.jpg

I feel like this might be a closer form to which the final MV-75 will take.
 
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taxiya

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Apologies. I didn't understand the history of a top mounted intake commentary so it seemed kind of strange to me.

EDIT: Unrelated, but Bell put out some new renders of the MV-75 a while back that show some differences between it and the V-280 Valor.

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I feel like this might be a closer form to which the final MV-75 will take.
seems that it has heat supression shroud around the exhaust.
 

SlothmanAllen

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seems that it has heat supression shroud around the exhaust.
The entire pod seems to have been redesigned compared to the V-280 Valor. The intake is further back and the pod is overall more narrow. The front of the propellor is also more flat as opposed to the "bombshell" like design from the V-280.

Outside of those changes, the nose has been redesigned. The cockpit windows are now square without that cutout in the front, while the pilot door windows are larger. The landing also lacks a shroud on the front now and their is a step on the side of the aircraft for people entering.

These models are very high poly count so I don't think they are just artist renders, but likely come from the digital "twin" of the MV-75.
 

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Apparently there's a new hypersonic for USN, multi packed, yes you read that right.

Wow I wonder what'll have a longer range (or really a usable one whatsoever), something like the YJ-17/20 that uses up the full volume of an 850mm cell or something using a fraction of an already tiny Mk41. Really don't understand the point of this bringing a pistol to an artillery duel crap.
 

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Apparently there's a new hypersonic for USN, multi packed, yes you read that right.

Wow I wonder what'll have a longer range (or really a usable one whatsoever), something like the YJ-17/20 that uses up the full volume of an 850mm cell or something using a fraction of an already tiny Mk41. Really don't understand the point of this bringing a pistol to an artillery duel crap.
Purely for perception. Their dumb audience will think their quad-packed hypersonic missiles are at least 4x better than Chinese hypersonic missiles that are only 1 to a cell.
 
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