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On LX(R):
First, what's LX(R)? "As of 2012 LX(R) is the new designator for the replacement for LSDs, rather than the earlier LSD(X)."
according to
Posted on InsideDefense.com: May 29, 2014
A proposal to use the LPD-17 San Antonio-class amphibious vessel design as the basis for an LX(R) amphibious ship replacement program is "off the table" due to affordability concerns, according to the chief of Naval Sea Systems Command.
"An LPD-17 variant that is built exactly like the current LPD-17 is off the table," Vice Adm. William Hilarides told reporters on May 29 at NAVSEA headquarters. "It is unaffordable in the context of the ship we need to replace."
The Navy is planning to replace its aging fleet of dock landing ships with the LX(R) in the mid-2020s -- roughly the same time that the service plans to start construction on its next-generation ballistic missile submarine. Officials have expressed concern that funding for the Navy's 30-year shipbuilding plan will not cover the simultaneous construction of LX(R)s and Ohio-class replacement subs.
Although the Navy's most recent shipbuilding plan calls for the San Antonio class to end at LPD-27, which is set for delivery in fiscal year 2017, many industry, military and government officials have recently come out in support of building a 12th ship as a bridge to the LX(R) program.
House and Senate authorizers, in their marks of the fiscal year 2015 defense authorization bill earlier this month, included recommendations to add or reprogram funding for the acquisition of the 12th ship. In the Senate bill, lawmakers authorized the Navy to reprogram $650 million from other efforts for the vessel, arguing that the move would enable the Marine Corps to better support the Asia-Pacific defense strategy. The House, meanwhile, included a recommendation to add $800 million in incremental funding for the effort.
But Hilarides indicated that this move is not in line with the Navy's wishes. "We cannot afford [it] . . . we will price ourselves out of business," he said. "If Congress puts all the money in for another LPD-17 we will build another LPD-17 -- obviously we will do what the law says. What we are trying to tell everybody is doing that a bunch more will ultimately lead to a much smaller amphibious force than the nation needs."
The analysis of alternatives for the LX(R) program is ongoing, Hilarides said, noting that the Navy is considering using some kind of variant of the San Antonio class as the basis for the project. The AOA was slated to be completed in January, but Hilarides said the Navy is taking another look to gain a better understanding of the cost element.
"We kind of came through the requirements part, and then said, 'Wait a second, where's the cost?' and sent it back really to bring costs forward with the technical requirement," Hilarides said. "What are the parts of the ship that you can't afford to lose?"
One of the most important requirements is that the replacement ship can travel at eight knots after experiencing "moderate" battle damage, Hilarides said. The Navy is exploring several different ways to accomplish that, he added.
"That's the conversation that's going on -- it's a very robust one, and right at that balance between technical excellence and judiciousness," he said. "It's actually probably the best ship design discussion we've had in a very long time inside the government."
First, what's LX(R)? "As of 2012 LX(R) is the new designator for the replacement for LSDs, rather than the earlier LSD(X)."
according to
Posted on InsideDefense.com: May 29, 2014
A proposal to use the LPD-17 San Antonio-class amphibious vessel design as the basis for an LX(R) amphibious ship replacement program is "off the table" due to affordability concerns, according to the chief of Naval Sea Systems Command.
"An LPD-17 variant that is built exactly like the current LPD-17 is off the table," Vice Adm. William Hilarides told reporters on May 29 at NAVSEA headquarters. "It is unaffordable in the context of the ship we need to replace."
The Navy is planning to replace its aging fleet of dock landing ships with the LX(R) in the mid-2020s -- roughly the same time that the service plans to start construction on its next-generation ballistic missile submarine. Officials have expressed concern that funding for the Navy's 30-year shipbuilding plan will not cover the simultaneous construction of LX(R)s and Ohio-class replacement subs.
Although the Navy's most recent shipbuilding plan calls for the San Antonio class to end at LPD-27, which is set for delivery in fiscal year 2017, many industry, military and government officials have recently come out in support of building a 12th ship as a bridge to the LX(R) program.
House and Senate authorizers, in their marks of the fiscal year 2015 defense authorization bill earlier this month, included recommendations to add or reprogram funding for the acquisition of the 12th ship. In the Senate bill, lawmakers authorized the Navy to reprogram $650 million from other efforts for the vessel, arguing that the move would enable the Marine Corps to better support the Asia-Pacific defense strategy. The House, meanwhile, included a recommendation to add $800 million in incremental funding for the effort.
But Hilarides indicated that this move is not in line with the Navy's wishes. "We cannot afford [it] . . . we will price ourselves out of business," he said. "If Congress puts all the money in for another LPD-17 we will build another LPD-17 -- obviously we will do what the law says. What we are trying to tell everybody is doing that a bunch more will ultimately lead to a much smaller amphibious force than the nation needs."
The analysis of alternatives for the LX(R) program is ongoing, Hilarides said, noting that the Navy is considering using some kind of variant of the San Antonio class as the basis for the project. The AOA was slated to be completed in January, but Hilarides said the Navy is taking another look to gain a better understanding of the cost element.
"We kind of came through the requirements part, and then said, 'Wait a second, where's the cost?' and sent it back really to bring costs forward with the technical requirement," Hilarides said. "What are the parts of the ship that you can't afford to lose?"
One of the most important requirements is that the replacement ship can travel at eight knots after experiencing "moderate" battle damage, Hilarides said. The Navy is exploring several different ways to accomplish that, he added.
"That's the conversation that's going on -- it's a very robust one, and right at that balance between technical excellence and judiciousness," he said. "It's actually probably the best ship design discussion we've had in a very long time inside the government."