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Jeff Head

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If you have 4 , you could easily have 8 . But they are not very stealthy . So USN waits for LRASM .
Actually, the best way to have four is to use one canister launcher with four missiles.

Takes up less deck space, and that is why I would advocate for four for the LCS right now. The Harpoons are available now. The LRASM will not be online for a while yet, and they would also have to add the VLS. They can come back and do that later, but get the Harpoons on the vessels now.
 
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thunderchief

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Actually, the best way to have four is to use one canister launcher with four missiles.

Takes up less deck space, and that is why I would advocate for four for the LCS right now. The Harpoons are available now. The LRASM will not be online for a while yet, and they would also have to add the VLS. They can come back and do that later, but get the Harpoons on the vessels now.

USN prefers to launch Harpoons sideways ( 2 or 4 port , 2 or 4 starboard) . If you put just one quad canister , one side will remain "blind" . Alternatively , you could install forward facing launcher , but I don't know could you fire over gun .
 

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General Dynamics Awarded $30 Million for Development of Advanced Submarine Technologies
Under the terms of the modification, Electric Boat will perform advanced submarine research and development studies in support of a wide range of technology areas including manufacturability, maintainability, survivability, hydrodynamics, acoustics and materials. Electric Boat also will conduct research and development work in affordability, manning, hull integrity, performance, ship control, logistics, weapons handling and safety. Additionally, the contract supports near-term Virginia-class technology insertion, future submarine concepts and core technologies.
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The U.S. Navy’s first joint high-speed vessel departed Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek-Ft. Story in Virginia Thursday on its maiden deployment to the U.S. 6th Fleet Area of Responsibility.

USNS Spearhead (JHSV 1) is expected to remain in U.S. 6th Fleet until May 2014 and sail to the U.S. 4th Fleet area of responsibility through the end of fiscal year 2014. While deployed, the ship will undergo planned experimentation and testing to determine the ship’s capabilities.

“The JHSV ship class will play an important part in the future of our joint forces in terms of affordability, flexibility, speed and agility,” said Rear Adm. T.K. Shannon, commander, Military Sealift Command. “Its performance to-date is solid and I think its first deployment will offer us a great opportunity to further demonstrate the important capabilities this new class brings to our fleet.”

The 338-foot-long aluminum catamarans are designed to be fast, flexible and maneuverable, even in shallow waters, making them ideal for transporting troops and equipment quickly within a theater of operations.

“I think the ship will do very well when it joins the fleet. It keeps expanding upon its own capabilities. It’s every bit as flexible as expected, if not more,” said Capt. Douglas Casavant, Spearhead’s civil service master.

The USNS Spearhead, along with future JHSVs, is owned and operated by Military Sealift Command and is crewed by 22 civil service mariners working for MSC who will operate, navigate and maintain the ship.

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“Like any of our Navy’s ships, one of Spearhead’s real strengths is its crew,” said Lederer. “This deployment represents an exciting new chapter in warfighter support, and we look forward to learning what Spearhead can do as the ship stretches its legs.”
 

kwaigonegin

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I have to admit while the entire Joint High Speed Vessel program is interesting and now, this ship is very cool looking, fast and probably employing a host of new technologies I'm not sure if I'm seeing a true benefit since it's probably filling a very niche purpose. There is nothing this ship can do that other types cannot accomplish today with fairly similar result. The $$$ could be better spent elsewhere. Of course this is just strictly my opinion!
 

Rutim

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I have to admit while the entire Joint High Speed Vessel program is interesting and now, this ship is very cool looking, fast and probably employing a host of new technologies
Well, it looks like a box. A box floating on the water. I don't know what's cool is in boxes but I respect your sense of style ;)
 

Jeff Head

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I have to admit while the entire Joint High Speed Vessel program is interesting and now, this ship is very cool looking, fast and probably employing a host of new technologies I'm not sure if I'm seeing a true benefit since it's probably filling a very niche purpose. There is nothing this ship can do that other types cannot accomplish today with fairly similar result.
Well, actually, for what it does, there isn't a vessel that can achieve the same thing.

The Joint High Speed Vessel (JHSV) program has been a joint US Navy/US Army effort to develop and field a high-speed, shallow draft transport for rapid intratheater deployment of conventional or special forces...including their equipment and supplies.

Imagine, kwaig, being able to transport an entire company of soldiers and their equiment in one of these and doing so at sustained speeds of 40-45 knots! Or, an entire battallion without their vehicles at those speeds...and into shallow draft ports or anchorages that other vessels would not be able to get into.

They are meant for intratheater work, so this is not the vessel to ship troops and equipment half way around the world. But for a commander in theater, particularly in the Pacific, if he has to get a Company or Battalion sized force (including their equipment and supplies) somewhere quickly, these vessels will let him do that.

My guess is that they will hook up well with the Mobil Offshore Platforms we are building too. A degree of compatibility and funtionality, with a huge range of possiblilities and flexability our commanders have not had before.

We have no transports or traditional amphibious vessels capable of this. Right now, ten are contracted for. Four have been launched to date. Another one or two will be launched this year. They plan eventually to have over 25 of these vessels. The are Military Sealift Command vessels. Cost is about $200 million per vessel...less than a third the cost of one LCS.
 
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kwaigonegin

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Well, actually, for what it does, there isn't a vessel that can achieve the same thing.

The Joint High Speed Vessel (JHSV) program has been a joint US Navy/US Army effort to develop and field a high-speed, shallow draft transport for rapid intratheater deployment of conventional or special forces...including their equipment and supplies.

Imagine, kwaig, being able to transport an entire company of soldiers and their equiment in one of these and doing so at sustained speeds of 40-45 knots! Or, an entire battallion without their vehicles at those speeds...and into shallow draft ports or anchorages that other vessels would not be able to get into.

They are meant for intratheater work, so this is not the vessel to ship troops and equipment half way around the world. But for a commander in theater, particularly in the Pacific, if he has to get a Company or Battalion sized force (including their equipment and supplies) somewhere quickly, these vessels will let him do that.

My guess is that they will hook up well with the Mobil Offshore Platforms we are building too. A degree of compatibility and funtionality, with a huge range of possiblilities and flexability our commanders have not had before.

We have no transports or traditional amphibious vessels capable of this. Right now, ten are contracted for. Four have been launched to date. Another one or two will be launched this year. They plan eventually to have over 25 of these vessels. The are Military Sealift Command vessels. Cost is about $200 million per vessel...less than a third the cost of one LCS.

I thought that's what LCACs are for LOL and the jarheads can land on the beach with dry feet too!
 
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