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FORBIN

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Awesome !

He is supported by parts of wood, in French " ligne de tins " i don't know the name in english, but what wood can withstand such a mass ?
 

no_name

Colonel
Wood have excellent compression strength.

"Ipe is known to have excellent strength properties among imported species, and has a crushing strength of 13,510 lbf/in2 (93.1 MPa), or 93.1 million newtons per square meter."
 

Jeff Head

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News Daily said:
BATH, Maine (AP) — The christening ceremony in Maine for a first-in-class warship has been postponed due to the ongoing partial federal government shutdown, U.S. Navy officials said Friday.

The ceremony for the future USS Zumwalt, the largest Navy destroyer ever built, was supposed to be held Oct. 19 at Bath Iron Works.

Democratic U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree's office said the Zumwalt will be launched on schedule with no public ceremony and an in-water christening will happen later.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said in a statement that the shutdown prevents the Navy "from being able to honor Admiral Zumwalt's memory with a ceremony befitting his and his family's legacy of service to our nation and our Navy."

The 610-foot-long ship is named after Adm. Elmo "Bud" Zumwalt, the country's 19th Chief of Naval Operations, who died in 2000. The ship which has been under construction since 2009 is the first new destroyer class since the Arleigh Burke launched at Bath Iron Works in 1989.

The launch will occur on schedule on October 19 but the official christening ceremony will now occur at a later date. So we should still see excellent photos of her launch into the water this next week.
 

Franklin

Captain
This article dates back from 2007. I don't know if this problem has been fixed by now.

Field rations failing soldiers

Amid reports of weight loss, troops to try meal that has more calories

When Lt. Dave Moore visited infantry units in the remote, rugged mountains of Afghanistan late last year, the Navy medical officer was surprised to hear from many soldiers and Marines that they had lost significant weight.

After conducting more than 150 interviews with medics, officers and troops on the ground, Moore concluded that the portable rations called "Meals, Ready-to-Eat"--long derided by troops, but valued by the Pentagon for their indestructibility--were not doing the job, causing the soldiers to shed pounds that they very much needed.

"The standard Meal, Ready to Eat (MRE) does not provide adequate nutrition for dismounted operations in this type of terrain," said an excerpt of Moore's classified report, which was released by the Marine Corps' Center for Lessons Learned. "Many Marines and soldiers lost 20 to 40 pounds of bodyweight during their deployment. At least one soldier was evacuated due to malnutrition and a 60-pound weight loss."

Moore's conclusions have raised concern among military leaders, as well as designers of the field rations at the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center outside Boston.

Moore stressed in an interview that the service members he surveyed represented only a small portion of those fighting in Afghanistan -- infantry troops deployed to desolate locations where MREs and local cuisine were the only options--but nonetheless he concluded that up to 1,300-calorie MREs were falling short.

A nutrition deficit, he added, could potentially result in fatigue, impaired brain function and lackluster performance.

Recognizing that the reports of weight loss are serious, the Combat Feeding Directorate is planning to ship about 4,000 prototypes of a new meal called the First Strike Ration to Iraq and Afghanistan. Designed for limited use, the ration contains about twice the calories of an MRE.

The U.S. military has used technology to pinpoint targets with smart bombs, and it can deploy thousands of warriors to a flash point within days. But feeding troops well at the tip of the spear remains one of the most elusive tasks for the U.S. war machine.

While mess halls in Afghanistan and Iraq provide the troops at bases three square meals a day, soldiers on the front lines often subsist for long stretches on MREs. These include entrees processed at high temperatures and kept in air-sealed pouches to maintain a shelf life of three years. Other typical components include dehydrated beverage mixes and snacks like peanut butter, crackers and nuts. Dietitians recommend soldiers eat three MREs a day.

At the small military installation in Natick, food scientists and dietitians with the Combat Feeding Directorate, which designs the MREs, acknowledged that weight loss among the troops has become an issue.

Dr. Andrew Young, a researcher at the U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine at Natick, said his agency has begun collecting data on the weight of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. It has already found anecdotal evidence that service members, particularly those in Afghanistan, are losing 20 to 35 pounds on their deployments.

Much of the problem is caused by heavy packaging, Young said. Troops on dismounted patrols often "field-strip" their bulky MRE packs, bringing along only part of the meals, to reduce the weight of their rucksacks and save room for cargo such as ammunition. In the process, they throw away calories, Young said.

"The MRE is designed to provide the caloric needs of the largest percentage of war fighters," he said. "The issue is operational constraints that are imposed on the warriors that prevent them from consuming the optimal calories."

Moore agreed that field-stripping is a problem, but he also blamed bland food and menus that don't meet the needs for high-intensity fighting.

"The MRE doesn't provide enough calories," Moore said in a telephone interview from the Mountain Warfare Training Center in Bridgeport, Calif. "If you're in the mountains, you need 4,500 calories a day. Even if a soldier eats everything in the MRE, which they rarely do, they're going to be running deficient of calories, and over a period of time they're going to lose weight."

High-altitude environments can cause anorexia, but Moore said the troops he spoke with had acclimated. The military has higher-calorie rations available for long-range and cold-weather patrols, but they are significantly more expensive and are not widely distributed.

The MRE, which costs the Defense Department about $7.25 per meal, was first introduced in 1980 with a dozen different menus, including a few that soldiers deemed inedible, such as Smoky Franks, which soldiers called the Four Fingers of Death, or Chicken a la King, which was known as Chicken a la Death.

When the MRE went to war in the early 1990s, it fared little better with troops on the ground in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, who derisively referred to the rations as Meals Refused by Everyone.

The MRE developed such a poor reputation that former Joint Chiefs Chairman Colin Powell ordered it overhauled. In 1995, the National Academy of Sciences found that troops were under-consuming their rations by 1,000 calories per day.

"It's not necessarily true, the old adage that they'll eat anything if they're hungry enough," said Gerald Darsch, who heads the Combat Feeding Directorate. "They may eat something if they're hungry enough, but they might not eat the right things." Troops in the field, Darsch added, will often bypass MREs for salty or sugary snacks they purchase at the PX or receive from home.

In recent years, the designers of the MRE have focused more on soldiers' tastes, using menus of restaurants in base towns across the country as guideposts. Soldiers like spicier foods, and there is a greater demand for ethnic entrees, said Judith Aylward, a senior food technologist with the Combat Feeding Directorate. So the directorate introduced such items as enchiladas, chicken fajitas and jambalaya and is soon hoping to roll out a buffalo chicken entree.

Each year, food scientists, nutritionists and dietitians from Natick head out with a unit in field training to test new menus. They ask the troops what they like and don't like, and they literally "Dumpster dive" to see what was eaten and what was thrown away.

Aylward and a colleague recalled that some of the test rations they were certain would be winners -- stuffed cabbage and shepherd's pie -- flopped when they brought them out to the field.

In another case, soldiers balked at dirty rice but raved about the same MRE entree when it was presented as "Cajun rice with sausage."

Aylward said producing items with a long shelf life remains the biggest hurdle.

"The items we hear they want the most are pizza and breakfast foods," Aylward said. "We can't produce a shelf-stable pizza, and the retort [high-temperature processing] affects the color and consistency of the egg dishes."

Seeking to address the weight-loss problem, the directorate is planning on widespread distribution of the First Strike Ration by this fall. Unlike the MRE, it requires no heating.

It includes a shelf-stable sandwich, and its various components contain more carbohydrates, protein and caffeine. The First Strike Ration, about a half-pound heavier than the MRE, is smaller and contains about 2,500 calories. But the ration is only meant to be consumed for three consecutive days, according to rules set by the Army surgeon general.

C. Patrick Dunne, a senior adviser to the Combat Feeding Directorate, said it is inevitable that troops will eat too little in the field, adding that the First Strike Rations have been fine-tuned to minimize weight loss and slow the impact on performance for troops.

Dunne added that strides are being made in high-pressure processing that could improve the tastes of certain foods. Food scientists are also researching how to include probiotics, like yogurt, in the meals to help stave off infection.

In the meantime, Dunne said tweaks need to be made in diets of soldiers working in highly demanding situations.

"What can we do ... to compensate for the fact that over a period of time we know the [troops] are going to be under-consuming?" Dunne said. "We optimized the carbohydrates to keep the brain functioning, and we optimized the proteins so you don't degrade the muscle mass."

Moore, the Navy doctor who reported that troops in Afghanistan are losing weight, said he is looking forward to the rollout of the First Strike Ration. The situation could be improved, Moore added, if scientists could figure out how to make the chow more palatable.

"If I were going to design the perfect MRE for austere conditions, I'd put more carbohydrates in them and try to improve the taste, which I know is hard to do," Moore said. "The people at Natick have done an awesome job with the MREs. They're so much better than when I started in the early 1990s. But we know that guys eat more and drink more when something tastes good."

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TerraN_EmpirE

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From time to time the members of Nato and there close allies get together for a kinda military potluck. Each bringing there standard issue rations. Traditionally the French or Italian's take the best in show. Well the USA or UK takes worst.
The Meals ready to eat changes every year. Its a big improvement over the K rats of old but to be frank its hardly worthy of being served by choice. Currently the MRE is in a evolutionary mode as the army is introducing specialized versions that up the calorie count or are optimized for eating on the go. One of the reasons for the fail is that troops don't like or cannot eat all of a MRE.
a active combat soldier burns about 4000 calories but most only eat about 2000 you can see the problem.
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Air Force Brat

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This article dates back from 2007. I don't know if this problem has been fixed by now.
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Of course its been fixed Franklin, it happened under GWBs watch! brat

But this current crew have cut hot meals and food in the field in general. The least we can do is feed our troops commensurate with the elites running the show. brat

Boooooooooo! very bad form, Booooooooooo! brat
 
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Jeff Head

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This article dates back from 2007...
Come on Franklin, from 2007...really? That's almost seven years ago. I'd hope we'd limit new posts in the US (and other) Military News threads to something maybe within the last couple of months at least.

Anyhow, back to current news...here's another report, this time from Wolrd Maritime News, about the floating of the USS Gerald R. Ford, CVN-78.

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World Maritime News said:
Huntington Ingalls Industries’ Newport News Shipbuilding (NNS) division began flooding the dry dock where the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) has been under construction since November 2009. With the push of a dozen buttons, ship’s sponsor Susan Ford Bales initiated the flow of more than 100 million gallons of water into the dry dock.

The flooding of the dry dock takes place in phases during which various tests are conducted. Initially, the dock is flooded about 4 feet high to its keel blocks, wood-capped concrete pads on which the ship has been supported during construction.

“Flooding of the dry dock, floating of the ship, and transfer to the outfitting pier all represent the successful completion of a tremendous amount of hard work by our talented shipbuilders,” said Rolf Bartschi, NNS’ vice president of CVN 78 carrier construction. “The shipbuilding team has taken great pride in building this first-of-class ship, and we all look forward to the next phase of ship construction and testing that will occur at the pier.”

Once the dock is fully flooded and initial afloat testing is complete, water will be partially pumped out and the ship returned to her keel blocks in anticipation of Ford’s christening on Nov. 9. The ship will float again about a week later when it is moved to a pier for outfitting. Ford is scheduled for delivery to the U.S. Navy in 2016.

Gerald R. Ford represents the next-generation class of aircraft carriers. The first-in-class ship features a new nuclear power plant, a redesigned island, electromagnetic catapults, improved weapons movement, an enhanced flight deck capable of increased aircraft sortie rates, and growth margin for future technologies and reduced manning.
 

Equation

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From time to time the members of Nato and there close allies get together for a kinda military potluck. Each bringing there standard issue rations. Traditionally the French or Italian's take the best in show. Well the USA or UK takes worst.
The Meals ready to eat changes every year. Its a big improvement over the K rats of old but to be frank its hardly worthy of being served by choice. Currently the MRE is in a evolutionary mode as the army is introducing specialized versions that up the calorie count or are optimized for eating on the go. One of the reasons for the fail is that troops don't like or cannot eat all of a MRE.
a active combat soldier burns about 4000 calories but most only eat about 2000 you can see the problem.
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I heard that the French got the best tasting rations, they even have calamari on one of their MRE type packages. Now that's something I would like to try.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I heard that the French got the best tasting rations, they even have calamari on one of their MRE type packages. Now that's something I would like to try.

People eat good in the Navy. The bigger the ship the better tasting (my opinion).. but the cooks are important! Even though it looks 'mass produced' like putting a ton of spaghetti in a couldron but still some skills are required. Same with steaks!
they have some good Ribeyes every once in a awhile and they do taste good.

I hear Vietnam era C-rations tasted like dog crap. I know because I tried it once (some chicken meat veggie crap) and honestly I would rather eat 1 month old boiled spinach and cardboard. No amount of tabasco or ketchup etc can masked the taste.
 
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