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Maikeru

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True, but then what's their strategy here?

What's the combination of systems and support that they intend to use that is apparently going to make the strengths of the F15EX so superior that any weaknesses it has will be so nullified or at least mitigated to the point that it even outshines 5th gen aircraft in the same role?
Well they don't tell me but I imagine pretty similar to the PLAAF's strategy of integrating J20s and J16s.
 

Atomicfrog

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Well they don't tell me but I imagine pretty similar to the PLAAF's strategy of integrating J20s and J16s.
They will not have F-22 for long and F-15ex fast enough to complete that type of integration. Not sure if they will even have the time to do that before planified F-22 retirement.

Without the comlink upgrades on the F-22 (
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) , It will be easier use F-35 to complete the duo until the NGAD is introduced.

Still F15ex have a combat range of over 1700 kilometers, compared to the F-35's range of only around 1000 kilometers.

Hard to compete against j20 and J16 for a while...
 

OTCDebunker

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They will not have F-22 for long and F-15ex fast enough to complete that type of integration. Not sure if they will even have the time to do that before planified F-22 retirement.

Without the comlink upgrades on the F-22 (
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) , It will be easier use F-35 to complete the duo until the NGAD is introduced.

Still F15ex have a combat range of over 1700 kilometers, compared to the F-35's range of only around 1000 kilometers.

Hard to compete against j20 and J16 for a while...
OK so it is a little bit sort of as I figured. The range and speed of F15EX has apparently persuaded US high command that it is better than having a 5th Gen who might not even be able to reach that far in the first place...or presumably run out of fuel if the interception mission turns out to require too much maneuvering and moving around.

Just out of curiosity...anybody have a quick refresher for PLAAF J16 strategy that was mentioned earlier?
 

Atomicfrog

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OK so it is a little bit sort of as I figured. The range and speed of F15EX has apparently persuaded US high command that it is better than having a 5th Gen who might not even be able to reach that far in the first place...or presumably run out of fuel if the interception mission turns out to require too much maneuvering and moving around.

Just out of curiosity...anybody have a quick refresher for PLAAF J16 strategy that was mentioned earlier?
F-15ex is clearly a stop gap measure....it's not part of a strategy, it's a band-aid solution with what available. F-22 was supposed to replace F-15c but didnt achieve it because of budget cuts and the F-35 don't have the capabilities to replace any of them completely.

In Japan they started to use F-35 for interception because of their aging F-15 but it appear that the F-35 is not suitable for emergency lift-off... In a scramble, they are not able to heat up the jet avionics and engine good enough and the results are maintenances problems. They are now cutted back the interception rates of chinese aircrafts...
 
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OTCDebunker

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F-15ex is clearly a stop gap measure....it's not part of a strategy, it's a band-aid solution with what available. F-22 was supposed to replace F-15c but didnt achieve it because of budget cuts and the F-35 don't have the capabilities to replace any of them completely.

In Japan they started to use F-35 for interception because of their aging F-15 but it appear that the F-35 is not suitable for emergency lift-off... In a scramble, they are not able to heat up the jet avionics and engine good enough and the results are maintenances problems. They are now cutted back the interception rates of chinese aircrafts...
Then it is also just as I suspected.

They have basically no choice and are choosing F15EX in the hopes that NGAD will be out by the time they need to actually go hot over WestPac skies.

Which is funny because then you have another problem...the human skill and human component of their 1IC jet fighters will be passing down knowledge and skillsets most definitely not suitable for 6th gen piloting or 6th Gen fighter aircraft integration with the rest of the air network.

Similar to how nobody passes down seamstress skills or blacksmithing anymore and instead simply textile manufacturing and welding/sheet metal trades since these are the relevant workers and work needed. Not old timey jobs that don't exist anymore.
 

TK3600

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J-16 could also perform interceptor role. F-15EX is likewise a Jack of all Trades capable of putting on multiple hats.
Yes, but the underlying motivation is different. So is the availability of alternative platforms. F-35 can cover the strike role J-16 primarily do. That leaves F-15EX primarily for patrol, interception, and heavy munition delivery. Something F-35 don't do. Something Mig-31 is doing. China can rely on numerous other cheap aircraft for interception or bust out the J-20 if situation need to. Things like J-7 and J-8 are interceptors all the way so China never lacked interception platform.
 

SlothmanAllen

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I've been wondering recently who manufacturers the monitors that are used in modern US (or even Chinese) fighter aircraft? Like the F-15EX has a 10x19 inch display (with touch controls? multi-touch?), but what are the actual properties of this display? What type of display is it [LCD (IPS, TN, TFT), Micro-LED, OLED)? What are the refresh rates (I feel like this would be important for a fighter aircraft to have a very high refresh rate as this reduces input latency)? What resolution does it display at (4K, 1440p, 1080p)? What is the brightness in nits (this seems very important as the display has to be visible in all sorts of lighting conditions)?

Maybe someone can answer my questions here?
 
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