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Soldier30

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Footage of the incident of the Russian Su-35S aircraft and the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. The US Air Force released footage of the July 5 incident involving a Russian Su-35S fighter jet and an American MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. According to the US Air Force, the Russian fighter actively maneuvered near the UAV, including the afterburner, used heat traps to change the flight of the US drone. According to Russian media reports, the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV entered the closed area where the Russian-Syrian exercises were held, the Su-35 fighter did not use airborne weapons.

 

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Footage of the incident of the Russian Su-35S aircraft and the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. The US Air Force released footage of the July 5 incident involving a Russian Su-35S fighter jet and an American MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. According to the US Air Force, the Russian fighter actively maneuvered near the UAV, including the afterburner, used heat traps to change the flight of the US drone. According to Russian media reports, the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV entered the closed area where the Russian-Syrian exercises were held, the Su-35 fighter did not use airborne weapons.

Did it pissed on it like it the one over the black sea
 

Atomicfrog

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Footage of the incident of the Russian Su-35S aircraft and the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. The US Air Force released footage of the July 5 incident involving a Russian Su-35S fighter jet and an American MQ-9 Reaper UAV in Syria. According to the US Air Force, the Russian fighter actively maneuvered near the UAV, including the afterburner, used heat traps to change the flight of the US drone. According to Russian media reports, the US MQ-9 Reaper UAV entered the closed area where the Russian-Syrian exercises were held, the Su-35 fighter did not use airborne weapons.

Was so near SU-35 stall speed, great footage ! Laser weapons would be so nice for heating these UAV until breakout without direct intervention.
 

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Report on the decline of US Shipbuilding...

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Emphasizing that American shipyards are the world’s leader in construction of combat ships, Babbin said the closing of American shipyards, such as the one at Quincy, affects more than the economic prosperity of workers and cities. It also affects national security, he said.

“The loss of Quincy is a major reduction in the size of the mobilization base and our capability of meeting wartime demand,” Babbin said.

Richard Piccuito, president of Shipbuilders Local No. 5 in Quincy, agrees.

“The American shipbuilding industry is going down the tubes,” Piccuito said. “And if we ever have a problem with our national defense . . . how are we going to man the seas if we can’t build the ships?”

Babbin said Korean ship workers are paid $2 an hour while American ship workers average about $11 an hour. The Korean government also offers favorable financial terms to companies that build there.

Given the Far East’s dominance in shipbuilding, some foreign governments have tried to protect their shipbuilding industries through subsidies.

However, the Reagan Administration in 1981 eliminated a federal program that subsidized companies for half of the cost of building a commercial ship.

In the past four years, 25 of the nation’s 110 shipyards have shut down, and up to 35 more are expected to close by the end of the decade. More than 20,000 workers have lost their jobs over the past four years and thousands more are expected to lose theirs, said Jed Babbin, vice president and general counsel of the Shipbuilders Council of America.

...from 1985. Look at what they are saying about capacity and ability to respond to meeting wartime demand! People were predicting the problems of today 38 years ago. Also, thanks to go old conservative American hero Ronald Regan for removing subsidies on US shipbuilding. The free market really helped US Shipbuilders become so efficient!

Honestly, what can you even do at this point? Its going to take decades to turn around that amount of capability loss, assuming you can even get Congress on board.
 

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Report on the decline of US Shipbuilding...

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...from 1985. Look at what they are saying about capacity and ability to respond to meeting wartime demand! People were predicting the problems of today 38 years ago. Also, thanks to go old conservative American hero Ronald Regan for removing subsidies on US shipbuilding. The free market really helped US Shipbuilders become so efficient!

Honestly, what can you even do at this point? Its going to take decades to turn around that amount of capability loss, assuming you can even get Congress on board.

As I suggested in past posts, collab with Japan/South Korea and if the Congressmen need their barrel of pork, keep facilities in their district and hire East Asian ship builders.
 

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Raytheon Calls in Retirees to Help Restart Stinger Missile Production​

June 28, 2023
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Stinger's been out of production for 20 years, and all of a sudden in the first 48 hours [of the war], it's the star of the show and everybody wants more,”
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The United States has sent nearly 2,000 of the heat-seeking missiles to Ukraine, which has used them to shoot down Russian aircraft. All of those missiles have come from U.S. military stockpiles. And the Biden administration said this week it will send even more Stingers to Ukraine.
When the U.S. Army placed an order for 1,700 Stingers in May 2022, the Pentagon said the missiles wouldn’t be delivered until 2026.
Kremer said it will take about 30 months for Stingers to start rolling off of the production line largely because of the time it takes to set up the factory and train its employees.
“We were bringing back retired employees that are in their 70s … to teach our new employees how to actually build a Stinger,” Kremer said. “We're pulling test equipment out of warehouses and blowing the spider webs off of them.”
 
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Raytheon Calls in Retirees to Help Restart Stinger Missile Production​

June 28, 2023
...
Stinger's been out of production for 20 years, and all of a sudden in the first 48 hours [of the war], it's the star of the show and everybody wants more,”
...
The United States has sent nearly 2,000 of the heat-seeking missiles to Ukraine, which has used them to shoot down Russian aircraft. All of those missiles have come from U.S. military stockpiles. And the Biden administration said this week it will send even more Stingers to Ukraine.
When the U.S. Army placed an order for 1,700 Stingers in May 2022, the Pentagon said the missiles wouldn’t be delivered until 2026.
Kremer said it will take about 30 months for Stingers to start rolling off of the production line largely because of the time it takes to set up the factory and train its employees.
“We were bringing back retired employees that are in their 70s … to teach our new employees how to actually build a Stinger,” Kremer said. “We're pulling test equipment out of warehouses and blowing the spider webs off of them.”

I hope that if they are doing this that they use the production capacity they build up to start production of a replacement missile/capability. Does
As I suggested in past posts, collab with Japan/South Korea and if the Congressmen need their barrel of pork, keep facilities in their district and hire East Asian ship builders.

Yeah, I think that and then actually re-opening closed US Navy public yards (those that haven't been turned into McDonalds and Condos) if possible. Otherwise developing new public yards to handle production and maintenance while using Japan/South Korea for both manufacturing and maintenance.

The one problem with this is that it will require lots of money over a long period of time at a time when interest rates are high, debt is high and thus the cost on financing the debt is exploding. If it comes down to a guns or butter situation, I think butter will win.
 

HighGround

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Yeah, I think that and then actually re-opening closed US Navy public yards (those that haven't been turned into McDonalds and Condos) if possible. Otherwise developing new public yards to handle production and maintenance while using Japan/South Korea for both manufacturing and maintenance.

The one problem with this is that it will require lots of money over a long period of time at a time when interest rates are high, debt is high and thus the cost on financing the debt is exploding. If it comes down to a guns or butter situation, I think butter will win.

Who's going to buy these over-priced ships, built by inexperienced workers? And if they are subsidized to be competitive on the market, I don't think we can afford to spend dozens of billions on subsidizing an industry just in case we need wartime production.
 
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