Ukrainian War Developments

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If this is true. Then the real Battle of Kiev is gonna begin sometime soon. Its looking like the Russians are going back to their traditional method of assaulting a city.

Reminds me of the Battle of Aleppo in 2016. Only that was carried out by the Syrian Army with Russian advisors. Surround the city, give a corridor for civilians to escape. When time is up. Begin the bombardment and storming of the city.
The negotiation will begin at the Belarus border in 30 minutes, that's why Russia spent all day moving things into position and not fighting. If the negotiation does not go well then either this afternoon or tomorrow they will unleash hell.
 

KYli

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But as a Chinese with a burden of one hundred years of humiliation, how would we feel if we hear Americans say they can 'take care of these Chinese women refugees' during Japanese invasion of China.
American soldiers had raped Chinese women during WWII and never got punished because KMT dared not confront them. Do you know how many Americans have Thailand, Vietnamese wives, Philippines. Many of them also left mixed race children behind especially during the Vietnam war. I knew many Americans join the military so they could go overseas to bang Asian women. Join a private American military forums and see for yourself how disrespectfully they talk about Asian women. What are you going to do about it?
agree. But it does negatively impact mainlanders' imagine. If Hongkongers do that on the mainland, the reaction will be the same.
The problem is the reaction isn't the same and never the same. When only mainland Chinese got the negative publicity and special treatment then there is something wrong.
am sorry for Gu. But bashing of Gu in the US is great for China. They just made a half Chinese person much more Chinese. If I am American I would ask my fellow Americans to be generous and graceful and be proud of this Californian who is building a bridge between the two countries, which is GOOD for the US. You see my line of thinking? I care about China and Chinese people. That's why I bother to point it out (with very strong language in this case) to help improve. Why do you think I bother to spend hours of my life to write these posts and risking using up the rapport and camaraderie that I have built with other members of the forum? This doesn't make me a better Chinese and it doesn't make me feel better about myself.

I personally will not bother with small things. There are plenty of racism towards whites and Indians. But as I explained above, these remarks are out of line.
Great for China but not great for any Chinese living in the West.

You wanted to crucifix Chinese because a few guys can't keep their mouth shut and talk trash. MSM should thank you and people like you because another day another story to demonize Chinese. When hundreds and thousands other males in other countries talk trash and disrespect Ukrainian women but only mainland Chinese males got the front page treatment of MSM. You think this is normal.

It is just a trivial thing. Condemned these people and moved on. If not, condemned all males that talk trash and disrespect women especially Ukrainian women. Don't single out Chinese.

Don't drag all Chinese into your moral crusade. A few bad apples don't represent all Chinese. You care too much about what others think about you. You care too much about what westerners and foreigners think about Chinese. Give it a rest. Many Westerners already think Chinese cheat, steal, lie and eat babies so our image couldn't get much worse. Relax and move on.
 

noone536

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Interesting analysis Russian Amour can do 80km a day, and that's about what they have done

There is an early one in the series plus another one on the new kit the Russian have.
i was just watching this vids. when he said that russian lack night attack capabilities i was not surprise as russia send their second tier unit and like the pla they always get the hand me down. abeit pla is learning fast.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Well what I said was not interpreting China as a woman desperate for Russian attention. China is already a superpower in its own right. It can stand on its own, even without the goodwill of Russia. This mindset of countries lining up like women to get love from a mighty nation is only strong in the imperialistic countries, like the West, Russia, and India. China prefers friends, not a harem of concubines.

Russia is definitely more imperialistic compared to China, but to its credit, it has not used its military power for pure evil like the West. China understands that Russia has justification for attacking the Kiev regime. Only problem is that Russia chose the worse possible option, war. Everytime the West tries to hammer Russia, China is refuting Western hypocrisy as well as defending why Russia did that. Even when it goes against the Chinese value of non-interference.

What I'm trying to say is that during these trying times of boycotts and sanctions on Russia, only China truly came out and defended Russia. Other friends of Russia were either too weak to have a say, or were hiding, or have turned. There are elitist circles in Russia who bought too much into the hype of Russian supremacy. That Russia is a top dog. With Europe, China and India, fighting each other to get its attention. They thought that they could pick between Europe, India, and China. But now when Russophobia has become mainstream political correctness, Europe is punishing Russia. India, who claimed to be Russia's best friend, is missing. Only China and a handful of friends stood with Russia.

Russia is too big to be restrained, yet it still needs friends. Its most reliable friends are mostly in Asia. Any hopes in the West about some Russia alignment with the West because of the common values of 'white Christianity', is as good as gone now. This is not the first and will not be the last time the West had bullied Russia. Why should Russia trust the West anymore after this?
We understand that Russia has always been imperialist. But we also understand they're a classical imperialist like Imperial China or Imperial Turkey that will annex countries but then treat them as relative equal subjects of the tsar (or since 1922, federal government), like how in the old school Russian Empire, Germans/Ukrainians/Kazakhs were legally equal to Russians. They do not have colonies where entire races are considered slaves.

China knows how to deal with classical imperialists as China was a classical imperialist itself before the PRC era. However, modern imperialism is more insidious and dangerous, so Chinese are much more wary of modern imperialists.
 

li450274625

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No, the west has made it clear that this is actually about china, not russia in the latest "games". The sanctions against russia are entirely performative in nature and are designed to impress upon China full western capabilities. China must throw its full weight behind russia now while it still stands. At the same time, we expect our allies to do the same (i.e. Pakistan, or they can choose to be absorbed by India)

I am a hardcore realist and understands Russia + China + (Pakistan and others) has only a 30% chance against the "west". But this drops to under 10% once russia falls. We do not get to choose the timing of our rise. We roll the dice now.
30% lol, I'm wondering how USA can sustain arm race with China. Chinese purchasing power parity GDP is much larger than USA, and is still increasing fast. This can be seen from that in single year 2019, China launched 10 advanced destroyers(8 052d + 2 055) Launched three 40k tons LHD during a timespan of 18 months, at a speed faster than what Soviet and USA was able to achieve in a single year during last cold war. Meanwhile due to purchasing power difference China is only using 1/4 of US military budget and military expenditure is only 1.5% of GDP. Imagine it raises to same level of USA. We will probably witness China can easily build 4 nuclear powered aircraft carriers at the same time given another 10 years of economic development. Meanwhile US next generation destroyer is a copy cat of 055 and will not be available until 2030. It's already a feat for US navy to maintain its current capability in following years considering a lot of ships are going to be retired soon.

So, even if China's economy totally stops growing, in theory it can still maintain a larger military than USA. The only thing needed is time. Once China has enough military power to support building its own trade framework, USD to CNY will be something like 2:1, everything will be changed by then. I just don't see how China can lose to USA in this new cold war.
 

Tyler

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No, the west has made it clear that this is actually about china, not russia in the latest "games". The sanctions against russia are entirely performative in nature and are designed to impress upon China full western capabilities. China must throw its full weight behind russia now while it still stands. At the same time, we expect our allies to do the same (i.e. Pakistan, or they can choose to be absorbed by India)

I am a hardcore realist and understands Russia + China + (Pakistan and others) has only a 30% chance against the "west". But this drops to under 10% once russia falls. We do not get to choose the timing of our rise. We roll the dice now.
China needs to form alliances with Pakistan, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan. Even Iran and Afghanistan should be included in the new swift system.
 
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