Ukrainian War Developments

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Sardaukar20

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I agree with what you are saying. But I think people could interpret your words negatively, by presuming that your ultimate motive is like, figuratively speaking, a girl (China) trying to compete with another girl (India) for the fidelity and affection of a boy (Russia).

Now, that is not a very dignified and elegant personification of China, is it? Are we that desperate for winning the favor of Russia?
As a Chinese, I don't like China to be pictured as a beggar.

I think our relationship with Russia is a very simple and clean relationship of mutual national interests. In comparison, the only different between sino-russian relationship and say, russian-poland relation (or russian-finland, or russian-japan relations, etc) is that China is strong enough to not even entertain the thought of being intimidated by Russia, as long as Russia does NOT join the West in harming China.

Therefore, why would China do anything to Russia that will push Russia to the embrace of the West? Just to please the West? Just to please the West who wants to destroy and subjugate China economically (as revealed by Hilary, Trump, Nancy Pelosi, Rubio, etc.)? Are we Chinese retarded? Are we so weak and small (like Poland, Ukraine, Finland, etc.) that a boogiemen in the shape of Russia could be used by a third-rate English-language media (I'm talking about you, CNN) to intimidate the Chinese masses? I will be nice and only accuse countries like Poland, Ukraine and Finland etc for being weak and small only (meaning I will not call them stupid and shortsighted).
Well what I said was not interpreting China as a woman desperate for Russian attention. China is already a superpower in its own right. It can stand on its own, even without the goodwill of Russia. This mindset of countries lining up like women to get love from a mighty nation is only strong in the imperialistic countries, like the West, Russia, and India. China prefers friends, not a harem of concubines.

Russia is definitely more imperialistic compared to China, but to its credit, it has not used its military power for pure evil like the West. China understands that Russia has justification for attacking the Kiev regime. Only problem is that Russia chose the worse possible option, war. Everytime the West tries to hammer Russia, China is refuting Western hypocrisy as well as defending why Russia did that. Even when it goes against the Chinese value of non-interference.

What I'm trying to say is that during these trying times of boycotts and sanctions on Russia, only China truly came out and defended Russia. Other friends of Russia were either too weak to have a say, or were hiding, or have turned. There are elitist circles in Russia who bought too much into the hype of Russian supremacy. That Russia is a top dog. With Europe, China and India, fighting each other to get its attention. They thought that they could pick between Europe, India, and China. But now when Russophobia has become mainstream political correctness, Europe is punishing Russia. India, who claimed to be Russia's best friend, is missing. Only China and a handful of friends stood with Russia.

Russia is too big to be restrained, yet it still needs friends. Its most reliable friends are mostly in Asia. Any hopes in the West about some Russia alignment with the West because of the common values of 'white Christianity', is as good as gone now. This is not the first and will not be the last time the West had bullied Russia. Why should Russia trust the West anymore after this?
 
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Here we are once more. It's time for my mental dump from today (don't complain about the smell, please) of the events of today in, about and around Ukraine. This is my opinion and worth as much as you paid for it. We are here at the end of day 4.

1. On the ground, the Russians are still winning. They appear to be moving forward with attempting to create a kessel for the eastern Ukrainian forces. However, how much progress they have made to do so is, IMO, tbd. We don't see a lot of reports on the ground from those areas where the maps show them, except for the one russian tank found abandoned near-ish Poltava.

2. The Russians yoloed into Kharkov. They appear to have been beaten back. Fighting in Kharkov continues. As a recon-in-force, I can accept, but...it just felt weird. The nearest equivalent was the so-called Thunder Run the US Army did in Baghdad, but the Americans used M-1 tanks and M-2 bradleys to do it rather than TIGRs and other armored trucks.

3. Mariupol is surrounded. Kiev may be (probably is) surrounded. Klitschko might have been knocked in the head too many times and either said the quiet thing out loud. Or he might have said the wrong thing and been wrong. Or whatever. if the Russians haven't surrounded Kiev, I'd be surprised.

4. The battle for Bucha seems like it was the armoured thrust forward we have been expecting into Kiev and yet, it seems (stress seems) to have been beaten back.

5. Near Kherson, the Russians are starting to use the artillery we've been expecting. The grandchildren of Stalin's pipe organs have started playing the song we all expected from the start.

6. The Russians have deployed between 2/3s to 3/4s of their forces they moved up in preparation for the war. 1/4 to 1/3 are still in reserve. I have to ask if anyone has been watching to see if the Russians are moving more in? Or if there are just supply trains coming? or...?

7. The Iskandrs were touted as terrifying weapons and until the night before and today, they seemed to not do as much damage as their reputation would have implied. Or maybe I am wrong. I've been rather underwhelmed by their effectiveness.

8. Gotta say it...but where the fsck is the RuAF? I mean, Turkish made drones are still striking and whacking Russian ground troops. These are not Anjian or F-35s, they ought to have been swept from the skies. The primary kills of Ukrainian Su-25s have been SAMs, not fighters. Writing that feels weird. The vaunted Russian Air Force can't sweep from the skies a 3rd or 4th rate air force. I...I...where's that milk carton meme again?

9. Logistical problems seem to continue. Equipment is being found, often operational, and taken by Ukrainians. Most of the time by the Ukrainian Army, sometimes by farmers with tractors or even just driven away.

10. The Russians are asking for the Belarusians to join them in their war. That's...kinda astounding when I stop and think about it. Why are they relying on Belarus for troops? The Russians asked the Khazaks and were also declined. This is just...odd. Are the Russians just not able to take Ukraine on their own?

11. Russian operations except by the VDV and Spetznaz has been awfully. The bunching up of convoys, bumper to bumper is a great example. If the Ukrainains had more drones or Su-25, the Russian armour would have been buzzsawed.

12. To the Ukrainian side here. They're still here. They're still in play. That means their air force (!!!) and army. They are losing, but they are meat grinding the Russians far and away better than I could have ever expected. I had thought this was the mouse flipping off the hawk - at best - but instead it has been still far more effective than I could have ever expected. I like Ukrainians. Now I've started to grow to admire them.

13. That said though, they have been caught propagandizing things (and outright lying) a few times now. Whether its the Ghost of Kiev or the killing of Chechen leaders or Snake Island, they have been noted to bend, warp and make the truth dance a mighty fine gig.

14. Where the Ukrainians are absolutely winning is on the international stage. They now have a supply line set up from NATO. They have even fighter planes coming in from Europe. Enough to replenish their operational mig-29s 2x over. They're going to have more ATGMs than the Russians have tanks in theater at this rate. Ammo and fuel, etc. coming in. Then on top of that, there is the sanctions the West has implemented and are going to at least during this war hammer the Russians. Perhaps not in the long run, but in the medium to short. Well played, President Zelinskyy. Well played.

I still only give Ukrainians a 6% to 7% chance of winning, but that's increasing faster than I would have said earlier.

The Russians are winning. The Ukrainians are losing.

But the Russians are making a dog's breakfast of their wins and the Ukrainians seem to be making a confection of the shbt sandwich they have.

I expected Kharkov to fall today. It did not. I expected the Russians to push into Kiev. They did not.

Clearly, my expectations are off. Then again, Ukrainian farmers are dragging off APCs and MRAPs with tractors.

This war is so weird in so many ways.
 

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It isn't just an increase to 2% GDP.
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The german reorientation is almost as significant as if Japan decided to acquire own nucelar weapons (which is also a distinct outcome of the Russian attack).
So not small potatoes geopolitically.
If it's really that big of a deal geopolitically, it will need to result in a shift of balance between the nuclear-armed European states of UK and France, at least. Although, even UK and France are small potatoes compare to US, China and Russia.
Since it is pretty much impossible for Germany and Japan to get nuclear weapons in the current global order, Germany would need to have a conventional force much stronger than UK and France (probably combined, to compensate for the lack of nuclear arms) in order to constitute a meaningful "re-armament".

This, in my opinion, would mean that Germany need to have:
-> An army of at least 400,000 men, with at least 1200 Leo2A7+ tank in active service, and almost same number of large caliber howitzer artillery pieces, and nearly 2000 heavy IFVs.
-> An air force of at least 600+ typhoons and 300 F35s
-> A naval force centers around at least 4 large to heavy aircraft carriers ()carrying F35s) the size between QE class and 003.
-> At least 40 advanced large submarine.
-> hundreds of Conventional ballistic and cruise missiles, some of them hypersonic.

This is if Germany don't go nuclear, and only deciding on expanding on weapons they are already producing (plus the missile, which they can either develop on their own or buy from US.

Look at these numbers, they are pretty much approaching half of the PLA conventional forces. Do you really think that just by raising the %GDP a little bit, Germany of today can just expand to these in a year or two?
 

Sardaukar20

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These f**king Chinese imbeciles, saying they would “gladly take care of them”, referring to fleeing Ukrainian women. They bring shame to Chinese every where.
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There are jerks everywhere. Including China. Don't let SCMP fool you that this is a big problem in China. Think this is bad? Take a look at the jerks in the West and India. That's the real news.
 
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