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tamsen_ikard

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Jingle Bells said:
No. Any people would learn to love an enemy who didn't torture, oppress, exploit as an foreign conqueror. Let alone how much the US did for Japan. The Japanese economy and industry was literally built from ashes with huge amounts of US capital investments, technological transfers, under the peaceful environment and security provided by the US, with a huge and profitable market access given to them pretty much for free. Besides, the Japanese has no hope of opposing the US anyways, she has has no friendly superpower alternatives to pit the US against.

It would be inhuman for the Japanese to NOT love the USA.
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Japan's love of US has nothing to do with American generosity. US has shown the exact same attitude of bomb first and then provide aid later in every country it has taken over. But it didn't work in Iraq, Afghanistan. And it also didn't work in Vietnam. Then why did it work in Japan?

Because Japan is afraid of China and also has huge racial disdain for Chinese people in general. You can see street interviews of Japanese about their views on China and America and it is clear that they have hierarchy in their minds. Chinese are considered barbaric and not civilized. Instead japan has a huge fetish for European culture which they consider to be superior. There are thousands of Japanese stories set in European medieval era for example in Anime and manga land, and literally no story set in China.

In Japanese thinking, fighting US was the biggest mistake they made but trying to take China was okay. So their remorse about WW2 is that they dared to challenge the US, a western country with superior culture and might.

China is seen as lower culture but huge country that is threating to Japan. Thus the stronger China gets, the more Pro-US Japan becomes. Incidentally, if you analyze the view Hong kongers, Taiwanese and South koreans you will see the same exact pattern.

So, every country and region in East asia that was or is under western domination and became richer under it has the same view of disdain and fear of China while very positive view of US.

BTW, in Vietnam also, US is now seen positively. Why? Again, China.
 
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longmarch said:
You are being too sensitive. Russia needs real friends. Particularly now.
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Russia is our friend, haven't we done enough to show them how genuine our intentions are? I think we have.
I am just not interested in adding to that chaotic emotional energy that post I replied to. I mean, yes, we stand firm with Russia. But no, we are not driven by jealousy or possessiveness against India. India simple doesn't warrant such an emotion.
 
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Mohsin77 said:
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and have clinical psychotic tendencies, for which you should seek professional help (along with Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney etc.)

You are literally advocating war crimes here. Attacking critical civilian infrastructure is a war crime.

@Deino @Bltizo mods, please note.

And by the way, this isn't the 1940s where you can build an fighter aircraft in a week and ship it off to the front lines. All you need to cripple a modern military is to destroy the existing military, in detail. If you do that, it would take half a century for them to rebuild it.
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this is not true, the US created historical precedent and was never even accused of war crimes thus they're legal. Here is something to think about.

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[T]he Iraqi people, who were not consulted about the invasion, have paid the price for their government's madness ... Iraqis understood the legitimacy of a military action to drive their army from Kuwait, but they have had difficulty comprehending the Allied rationale for using air power to systematically destroy or cripple Iraqi infrastructure and industry: electric power stations (92 percent of installed capacity destroyed), refineries (80 percent of production capacity), petrochemical complexes, telecommunications centers (including 135 telephone networks), bridges (more than 100), roads, highways, railroads, hundreds of locomotives and boxcars full of goods, radio and television broadcasting stations, cement plants, and factories producing aluminum, textiles, electric cables, and medical supplies.
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tamsen_ikard said:
Japan's love of US has nothing to do with American generosity. US has shown the exact same attitude of bomb first and then provide aid later in every country it has taken over. But it didn't work in Iraq, Afghanistan. And it also didn't work in Vietnam. Then why did it work in Japan?

Because Japan is afraid of China and also has huge racial disdain for Chinese people in general. You can see street interviews of Japanese about their views on China and America and it is clear that they have hierarchy in their minds. Chinese are considered barbaric and not civilized. Instead japan has a huge fetish for European culture which they consider to be superior. There are thousands of Japanese stories set in European medieval era for example in Anime and manga land, and literally no story set in China.

In Japanese thinking, fighting US was the biggest mistake they made but trying to take China was okay. So their remorse about WW2 is that they dared to challenge the US, a western country with superior culture and might.

China is seen as lower culture but huge country that is threating to Japan. Thus the stronger China gets, the more Pro-US Japan becomes. Incidentally, if you analyze the view Hong kongers, Taiwanese and South koreans you will see the same exact pattern.

So, every country and region in East asia that was or is under western domination and became richer under it has the same view of disdain and fear of China while very positive view of US.

BTW, in Vietnam also, US is now seen positively. Why? Again, China.
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I've heard that narrative too many times, for too long now.
I think we are too fixated on 19th and 20th century ideologies and prejudice, that we lost sight of the larger grand historical context.

Too be honest, that is a very biased and narrow take on the Japanese culture and psyche. I advise you to do a bit of research on 程朱理学、陆王心学，as well as the influence of 朱舜水 and 水户学 in Japan.
 
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