Ukrainian War Developments

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pmc

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lube said:
Don't trust Ukraine's capability with their soviet-era equipment.
Look at what the West has deployed along Ukraine's borders. The information they can get is magnitudes more useful than whatever Ukraine can get by themselves.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497102822239879188
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they have practically collapsed Ukranian state with old crude methods. they cannot operate TB-2 drones. ukranian fighter just circles without even firing a rocket on the ground. i think Russia deliberately trying to probe things.
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
where are Russian AWACs and EW planes? They need to be jamming enemy comms.
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If they cant (dont?) even use drones do you expect them to use AWACS and EW planes...

These past days have been eye opening on the state of the Russian military. They act like this is a 20th century war when we live in 2022. They should go and ask the PLASSF and PLAAF to understand what modern warfare is really about.

I am not saying that Russia will lose, but its performance so far has not been good

Caveat: Unless Putin decided to intentionally hamstring the military on what it is allowed to do
 
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lube

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pmc said:
they have practically collapsed Ukranian state with old crude methods. they cannot operate TB-2 drones. ukranian fighter just circles without even firing a rocket on the ground. i think Russia deliberately trying to probe things.
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True, but imagine how worse Ukraine would have fared without ISR support and faster time to react.
Might have actually collapsed on Day 1.
So Western support could be responsible for dealing thousands more Russian deaths.
 
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Laviduce

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Overbom said:
That's why Putin was rushing to capture Kiev. The more you wait, the more time for NATO to foil your plans and start arming Ukraine and then providing them with targeting data.

A shadow war from NATO against Russia
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This shadow war has been happening since at least 2010 with Libya and Syria. The US-led Anti-Russian coup in Ukraine in 2014 just escalated everything. Russia's move on Ukraine, a US satellite state, has escalated this shadow war even further. This is all NOT GOOD !
 
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el pueblo unido

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Overbom said:
Russia is paying a higher price for its incompetence on the information/cyberspace war domain. That they still let Ukraine have access to the internet is testament to their incompetence

Ukranian people's morale has now (understandably) become very high
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No, once the internet is out, parasites like the CNN and BBC will have white canvas for them to paint whatever they wish to say on it
 
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Zichan

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Has this been posted before?

A Russian MI-24 taking out several Ukranian vehicles (including a Tor-M1!) on a highway with unguided rockets with civilian vehicles in the immediate vicinity. Luckily for the civilians, the pilot is a marksman:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1k0kw
Not very flattering for a SAM unit to be taken out from almost point-blank range by a helicopter.
 
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