Ukrainian War Developments

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sndef888 said:
I'm now even more convinced NATO will do nothing if China reunifies Taiwan by force.

They are sitting by and doing nothing while a 1 trillion power takes over a 600,000km2 sovereign country directly bordering EU and NATO, 250km away from Warsaw. No way in hell they fight a 20 trillion superpower for an unrecognised 30,000km2 island halfway across the world.
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I feel like Taiwan is a lot more important to the US than Ukraine is and it's also probably why they aren't doing anything in Ukraine, biding their time and saving their resources. But I don't really know much so just my opinion based on what I'm seeing.
 
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Abominable said:
What is this pajeet talking about?
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Lol one moment, this pajeet is probably like Stand with Ukraine for freedom!

Then the next moment, he's talking about how Russia will always back up India and China is a fake friend of Russia.

You see, in their reality, India is always friends with every country, and India is always correct.

Probably, in his mind, BrahMos was a gift from India to Russia.
 
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9dashline said:
The US itself would definitely get involved, the question is to what extent and what type of escalation path... but I agree the rest of NATO/EU would probably not...

Unlike Ukraine (which is really meant for Russian containment but like you said Russia economy is nothing compared to China) the TW situation has implications of geopolitical kind that impact the very existence of America, at least in the sense if America still wanted to retain its global hegemon status/ petrodollar usury etc (without which its house of cards would collapse and it would revert to civil war + breakup into pieces)

US could probably also coerce Japan, SK and the Filipinos to let it use them in a TW intervention scenario... so for now the best strategy for China is still to buy as much time to build up as fast as it can for as long as reasonably possible until/unless either TW or USA forces China's hand by deliberately crossing a bona fide red line and pushing China to the wall until it has no choice (like installing nukes in TW or US recognizing TW official declaration of independence, etc)
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It won't be so bad for them even in the worst case snowballing decline scenario as long as they did nothing.

Even in a "collapse of the Soviet Union" scenario they lose a few states, maybe some minor civil war like Chechnya, and get humiliated for a few years but keep most (>50%) of their military and economy.

Losing is much worse than just declining. There's a reason why the Soviets didn't gamble in the Fulda Gap and would rather just decline than lose.
 
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smug said:
I feel like Taiwan is a lot more important to the US than Ukraine is and it's also probably why they aren't doing anything in Ukraine, biding their time and saving their resources. But I don't really know much so just my opinion based on what I'm seeing.
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By not doing anything it reduces their prestige and expends political capital. It also gives away free information on their logistical response and early warning capabilities.
 
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meckhardt98 said:
There have been numerous, numerous photos and videos showing Russian losses from both Ukranian and Russian sources; are you insinuating they have taken no losses? It’s not unrealistic to imagine that the Russian military isn’t invincible and losses are going to happen; some videos are evidently fake while others can be taken as truth.
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as I said..."most" of the claims.
 
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