Ukrainian War Developments

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Mohsin77

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bustead said:
If these are Russian Mig-29s, they are flying very low and maybe threatened by MANPADS. The pilots should at least be popping flares in case of AA fire. However, if it is Ukrainian MiG-29s targeting Russian helos, it makes a lot of sense. The helos are flying low so the fighters are flying low. They are not popping countermeasures because AA on the ground is not going to fire at them.
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Dude the video is like 3 seconds long. How do you know they weren't dropping flares?

And if they are Ukrainian fighters, would they really be worrying about Russian helos right now?

You first have to control the airspace before you move on to dealing with lower level threats.

Have they splashed that many Russian Flankers that all they have to worry about is helos now?
 
meckhardt98

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lube said:
Remember, we have lopsided views of what's possible in a limited time frame. The Russians are rushing in on day 1 because they know their limitations.

Degrading Iraq's air defenses took days of bombardment. Time Russia doesn't seem they to think they have.
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The difference between Iraq and Ukraine is that the Americans strategicly implemented SEAD against Iraqi air defenses, this is notably lacking in Ukraine with Russian forces attempting to overwhelm and outright destroy air defense battalions before they can become operational.
 
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Mohsin77 said:
Dude the video is like 3 seconds long. How do you know they weren't dropping flares?

And if they are Ukrainian fighters, would they really be worrying about Russian helos right now?

You first have to control the airspace before you move on to dealing with lower level threats.

Have they shot down that many Russian Flankers that all they have to worry about is helos now?
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Think of it this way, the Ukrainian AF was going to be destroyed anyways. High command may tell the pilots to focus on things that they can kill (ie helos) instead of things that outclass them (ie flankers). It is a suicide mission but basically it is "bring as many Russian helos down as possible before dying".
As for the flare thing, I am pretty sure I saw a vid of Russian helos dropping flares constantly. Kind of basing my assumptions with that vid.
 
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