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el pueblo unido

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Overbom said:
They are prison labour. I don't see you getting up to arms about US prison labour.

So what. Russia can pay them up to $2 per hour/day and that's good. That's how America works, do you see anyone outraged on US' prison system?

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That's still 10 times better than how the UAF treated the DPR POWs from the videos they released, although the article is obviously fake, completely silencing the Russian side on a global scale does not help the situation, now the media can throw whatever they wished to say on the Russian side without any fact checking
This whole "because you are portraited as the bad guys so we can do whatever horrible things at your and whoever is not sanctioning you " mentality is really sickening
 
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el pueblo unido said:
That's still 10 times better than how the UAF treated the DPR POWs from the videos they released, although the article is obviously fake, completely silencing the Russian side on a global scale does not help the situation, now the media can throw whatever they wished to say on the Russian side without any fact checking
This whole "because you are portraited as the bad guys so we can do whatever horrible things at your and whoever is not sanctioning you " mentality is really sickening
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And please lets NOT FORGET Russia is one of the largest Nuclear Power on earth, and the more they fear about the existence of their country, the closer we are to a new stone age, let that sink in for a moment
 
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Overbom said:
They are prison labour. I don't see you getting up to arms about US prison labour.

So what. Russia can pay them up to $2 per hour/day and that's good. That's how America works, do you see anyone outraged on US' prison system?

I am awaiting your response
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So you want to use one wrong in the US as a justification for another? What a perverted attitude! Especially since slavery is expressly forbidden for prisoners of war according to the Geneva Convention, at least as far as I know.
 
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sheogorath said:
From several articles coming out a few years ago, these EW equipments seemed to have a long range. Back in 2017, when NATO did the Clockwork excercise, Russian equipment around the area of Murmansk was able to GPS jam equipment in Brønnøysund, Norway
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It's kinda hard to believe tho unless the equipment are airborne or spaceborne. There is no way ground based equipment can do that due to Line of sight constraint. and GPS are in L-band so it can't really use Sky or surface wave mechanism for the jamming signal to propagate.

It might be some natural interference or satellite position. as depicted here in this livemap. Currently some area in Africa have GPS coverage position problem. This map can be viewed here. It updated every hour

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Abominable said:
Turkey - a difficult one. Turkey is a country that Russia is trying to get to switch sides. I think it's futile while Erdogan is in power, but maybe Putin will think clemency will help improve relations?
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Turkish stance in this situation is clear. We are not involving in this armed conflict in any way. Anyone stupid enough to involve in this US scheme after seeing what happened in Syria, are prime candidates for Darwin Award. Feel free to show them the error of their ways.
 
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Deino said:
Are you truly suggesting Putin should send Ukrainian POWs into slave working camps and gulags like Stalin did?? :oops:
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Why not? Ukraine do not have enough POWs to exchange them either way. And I do not think that releasing any of them unless 1 vs 1 exchange should be done(just to teach a lesson to those that kill Russian POWs).

And someone does need to restore Mariupol. Why not use those that had led to it being damaged?
 
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tank3487 said:
Why not? Ukraine do not have enough POWs to exchange them either way. And I do not think that releasing any of them unless 1 vs 1 exchange should be done(just to teach a lesson to those that kill Russian POWs).

And someone does need to restore Mariupol. Why not use those that had led to it being damaged?
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Are you crazy?? The whole Ukraine has to be rebuild after this war!

Or is the same valid in return? What would you say if "just to teach the Russians a lesson to those that killed Ukrainian POWs" and "Why not use those that had led to it being damaged?"

Honestly, we all can have a different opinion, and this whole thread is already more a battlefield of propaganda and blinded by politics than I was ever able to accept, but anything like this against human rights, against the Carta of the UN and the Geneva Convention is onyl proof for my first stance to close this thread!
 
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Stealthflanker said:
It's kinda hard to believe tho unless the equipment are airborne or spaceborne. There is no way ground based equipment can do that due to Line of sight constraint. and GPS are in L-band so it can't really use Sky or surface wave mechanism for the jamming signal to propagate.

It might be some natural interference or satellite position. as depicted here in this livemap. Currently some area in Africa have GPS coverage position problem. This map can be viewed here. It updated every hour

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This NATO think tank seems to believe Russia does have the capability to do so, given how the jamming was too targeted and the timed for it to be natural interference

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