Are they waiting for carpet bombing ? They are teasing big time !
Ukrainian War Developments
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Attack helos!
That's my point. Both US and Russian actions are illegal. But we can support one weaker imperialist (Russia) against a stronger imperialist (USA), recognizing both are imperialists, but one is stronger and one is weaker, so we align with the weaker one for realpolitik purposes. Don't pretend that only US can do imperialism but Russia cannot.
That's my point. Both US and Russia actions are illegal. Both are imperialistic powers, but we can support a weaker imperialist (Russia) against a stronger imperialist (USA) as part of realpolitik, but so long as we recognize both are still imperialist white powers.
Then why is China neutral at UNSC? Can you explain why morals, principles, and international law does not matter, but China's actions at UNSC suggests opposite - China is neutral at UNSC and does not openly support Russia's brazen actions.
Then why is China neutral at UNSC? Can you explain why morals and principles does not matter, but China's actions at UNSC suggests opposite - China is neutral at UNSC and does not openly support Russia's brazen actions. If US imperialism is an existential threat to China, then why doesn't China openly support Russia's brazen actions to fight against US? Oh yea, because "non-interference in internal affairs" principle still matters. This is my point.
No, I admit to supporting an Anti-Imperialism narrative (whether American or Russian).
So only US can do imperialism, but Russia is not capable of imperialism? What is with the double-standards?
Russia-China are strongly aligned, not allies. There is no formal treaty alliance between Russia and China, so I don't need to blindly support every single Russian action like a blind bot.
There is nothing wrong to support a friend economically, but China should never openly support Russia's actions and stay neutral at UNSC. It's too obvious brazen actions.
China is already targeted by the West. This is why I support strong alignment with Russia against NATO/West. Doesn't stop me from correctly pointing out legitimate criticism of Russian actions. If you don't like it, it just means you are insecure and easily triggered and overly sensitive.
I never cared what West thought of China's neutral stance. China's neutral stance is aimed at the 3rd world (Africa, Southeast Asia, Middle East, etc...), not towards West.
True, the West hates China. Okay, you can still be strongly aligned with Russia, but stay neutral in UNSC. I do not support a formal treaty alliance with Russia because it will pull China into Russia's adventurisms in Eastern Europe and Middle East that do not directly benefit China.
My reality is perfectly reasonable: "China should support a weaker imperialist (Russia) against a stronger imperialist (USA)." You are overly sensitive of any legitimate criticism of RUssia, which speaks more about your insecurity, than my "pro-US imperialism" status.
KMT-ROC was a bigger US puppet than Yelstin's Russia because KMT-ROC was utterly dependent on US aid and donations during WW2. So no, your point is moot. KMT-ROC still didn't recognize Tibetan independence despite being a pro-US puppet.
So everytime someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being a "Westoid Puppet". Got it.
Is there proof that Yelstin or Gorbachev was a "Westeroid Puppet" for recognizing Ukrainian independence in 1989? It's too easy to simply accuse others of being a "Westoid Puppet" without any evidence.
The collapse of Soviet Union and recognition of Ukrainian independence is illegitimate because it was all done by "Westeroid puppets"? Do you have evidence that Yelstin/Gorbachev was a Western puppet?
This is a "False Dilemma" fallacy:
You present a false dilemma option:
1. Anti-Russian narrative
2. Anti-US narrative
But you ignore a third choice:
3. Anti-Imperialism narrative (both US and Russia)
But it's so convenient that anyone you disagree with, they are "US Puppets", whether it's Yeltsin/Gorbachev, Ukraine, or even myself. It fundamentally is low-effort propaganda effort.
So by default, policies and decisions made by weak people you disagree with is "Westeroid puppets" because you disagree with them? There is no good faith argument from you. I can easily accuse anyone of being a "Westeroid puppet" and automatically dismiss their argument.
Anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "Puppet" without any evidence. Good to know.
Why does everything have to be black-white with you? This situation is incredibly nuanced and complex, but you simply distill it down to: "Puppet vs. Non-Puppets" world view which is incredibly low-effort propaganda.
Ironic, you call Yelstin/Gorbachev as "Westoid puppets", then proceed to call me pushing "Subjective" one-sided arguments. You don't see how ridiculous you sound.
And no, saying "Russian troops crossing and annexing Ukraine is clearly violation of international law" is perfectly objective, not subjective at all. The fact that you have difficulty acknowledging basic reality speaks volumes.
Yes, I obviously hate white imperialism, whether Russian or American.
I feel like calling out Russian propaganda from yourself to be extremely fulfilling actually.
And you don't regurgitate Russian propaganda?
This is a False Dilemma Fallacy:
You present a false choice:
1. You must support Russia aggression
2. Otherwise, you will support US aggression.
What about a third choice:
3. Support nobody's aggression. (e.g., Neutrality)
Yes, fair enough, glad we can agree.
Yes, fair enough, glad we can agree.
Yes, because I regularly (see my 16 years posting history) of hostility towards American imperialism, so I consider myself pretty neutral.
If you look at my posting history (16 years on SDF), I am clearly anti-NATO expansionism and anti-US imperialism.
Why don't you go through my 16 years of posts on SDF and look for yourself, instead of assuming I am a "Pro-US shill" because your incapability to elaborate why Russian actions is not imperialism, because it obviously is.
You mean I am fighting against imperialist propaganda (whether Russia or American). Look at my post history.
I support China to be neutral at UNSC, but economically support Russia. Why not openly support? It's too brazen and obviously violation of international law.
I agree 100%.
I am saying China should stay neutral in UNSC and not openly support Russia. Why do you so easily get triggered and accuse others of being a "Pro-US shill"?
Good thing I regularly post anti-Western posts to balance it out. Go see my posting history.
Why don't you go through my 16 years posting history on SDF and see how many anti-US imperialism posts I have made?
You are arguing against a strawman. One can acknowledge Russia's deficiencies and still maintain a strong alignment. The world is not black-white extreme as you demand it to be.
Reportedly SMS messages are being sent to phones in the Donbass region by Russian forces with demoralizing messages targeted at any Ukrainian service members in the area. I’ve only seen this reported in one place so I’m unsure of the validity this information.
if true, its no different than the leaflets the US dropped prior to invading country X
I guess Russia has come a long way since the days of those StingRay devices the FBI loves to use to fake cell towers etc
Ukrainian parliament has approved for the nation to be put into a state of emergency; an increase of check points and security measures are to be put into affect to control the movement of people into Ukrainian controlled areas.
I see a total lack of urgency in Ukraine. Very little military deployment apart from against the Donbass. They are they not setting up barricades, digging trenches. Instead it seems to be business as usual on the ground.
This will be Crimea 2.0.
This will be Crimea 2.0.
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