Ukrainian War Developments

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Bill Blazo

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Prediction is a dangerous game, but Blazo's gonna play that shit right now. The recent Russian and separatist attacks on the eastern front are a mere prelude to the massive escalation coming later this month. For example, the recent Russian push towards Barvinkove is not a real attempt to knock out the Ukrainian army. It's just a localized effort to gain some space south of Izium in anticipation of a more comprehensive assault later this month.

I expect that the Russians will launch their major assault in the east around April 25th, so just over two weeks from now. I base this assessment on several things. First, there are still many Russian units coming through Belgorod, suggesting that the Russians are not yet fully positioned for a second major assault within Ukraine proper. Second, muddy conditions have hampered several Russian advances, as many people on this forum have mentioned already. Waiting until late April or early May could be enough time for the ground to dry after the spring thaw. And third, the Russians will likely need until April 20th before they fully control and pacify Mariupol. Since the troops currently tied down in that siege will be critical for the southern pincer in the eastern front, it stands to reason that the Russians likely won't be able to carry out another major assault until late April. Once that assault begins, I expect the Russians will be able to take Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, Kramatorsk, and Slovyansk by the end of June. They will complete the conquest of both Donetsk and Luhansk, and they'll be able to hold on in Kherson as well. However, I doubt the Russians will ever take Dnipro and Zaporizhzhia, simply because they still don't have enough troops. I don't even expect them to reach Pavlohrad, or if they reach it they won't take it. I also think the Ukrainians will successfully defend Mykolaiv, which means the Russians aren't capturing Odessa either. This is my prediction by the end of June. Of course, the war could go on beyond that point, but I doubt it will continue with the current level of intensity. Once Putin chops off 20% of Ukraine, I think he'll call it quits and declare victory. The problem is that he simply cannot afford to continue this massive conflict unless he transitions Russia to a full-blown war economy, with widespread nationalization, price and wage controls, rationing, etc. I sincerely doubt he wants to go down that path, which means he's going to push to end the war by early summer. Discuss.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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The Russians were just orders of magnitude worse than the Americans in dissociating the casualties they caused from their own actions, while playing majority public opinion like harps to sing their own praises.

In the art of war guilt denial and concealment, Americans are Alexander, Caesar, napoleon,and Rommel all rolled into one, while the Russians are more like one of Mussolini’s field commanders in Africa, after being hit very hard on the head.
What should Russia have done? Used its control of global media outlets like CNN et al. to disseminate its propaganda?
 

MortyandRick

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Prediction is a dangerous game, but Blazo's gonna play that shit right now. The recent Russian and separatist attacks on the eastern front are a mere prelude to the massive escalation coming later this month. For example, the recent Russian push towards Barvinkove is not a real attempt to knock out the Ukrainian army. It's just a localized effort to gain some space south of Izium in anticipation of a more comprehensive assault later this month.

I expect that the Russians will launch their major assault in the east around April 25th, so just over two weeks from now. I base this assessment on several things. First, there are still many Russian units coming through Belgorod, suggesting that the Russians are not yet fully positioned for a second major assault within Ukraine proper. Second, muddy conditions have hampered several Russian advances, as many people on this forum have mentioned already. Waiting until late April or early May could be enough time for the ground to dry after the spring thaw. And third, the Russians will likely need until April 20th before they fully control and pacify Mariupol. Since the troops currently tied down in that siege will be critical for the southern pincer in the eastern front, it stands to reason that the Russians likely won't be able to carry out another major assault until late April. Once that assault begins, I expect the Russians will be able to take Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, Kramatorsk, and Slovyansk by the end of June. They will complete the conquest of both Donetsk and Luhansk, and they'll be able to hold on in Kherson as well. However, I doubt the Russians will ever take Dnipro and Zaporizhzhia, simply because they still don't have enough troops. I don't even expect them to reach Pavlohrad, or if they reach it they won't take it. I also think the Ukrainians will successfully defend Mykolaiv, which means the Russians aren't capturing Odessa either. This is my prediction by the end of June. Of course, the war could go on beyond that point, but I doubt it will continue with the current level of intensity. Once Putin chops off 20% of Ukraine, I think he'll call it quits and declare victory. The problem is that he simply cannot afford to continue this massive conflict unless he transitions Russia to a full-blown war economy, with widespread nationalization, price and wage controls, rationing, etc. I sincerely doubt he wants to go down that path, which means he's going to push to end the war by early summer. Discuss.
I used to feel the Russians have a grand plan but so far, I've been disappointed. I think they need a large push to make up for the lack of success.

But didn't they just say they wanted to end it in a few days?

Time will tell
 

meckhardt98

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With talks of a potential cease-fire and operational end to the war in Ukraine what did the Russian Federation gain?

Geopolitical achievements by the Russian Federation in regards to their intervention in the Ukraine:
▪️Potential recognition of the DPR and LNR breakaway regions by the international community
▪️Potential recognition of the Crimea by the international community and Ukraine
▪️Destruction of vast amounts of Ukrainian infrastructure; including the destruction of military infrastructure and equipment including most key assets and naval forces
▪️Critical combat experience and expertise
▪️Key justification(s) for further military expenditure and expansion
▪️Push for self-reliance in certain technological and economic industries not seen since the collapse of the Soviet Union due to sanctions


Geopolitical ramifications for the Russian Federation in regards to their intervention in the Ukraine:
▪️Europe and the United States rapidly armed Ukrainian Forces with surplus weapons; creating a demand and further justification for an increase in defense spending for procurement of replacements and rearmament
▪️Poland stating it’s willingness to host nuclear weapons; with an escalation in American presence in Poland
▪️Expansion of military assets and expenditure in NATO counties
▪️Germany looking to acquire an [ABM] network; most notably the procurement of Arrow-3
▪️Russian removal from the UN Human Rights Council
▪️Plethora of sanctions; resulting in the devaluation of the ruble
▪️Seizure of assets and property abroad owned by the Oligarchy
▪️Further justification for western paranoia of the Russian Federation; discredit to the Russian Federation and its government on an international level
▪️Russian diplomat expulsion in Europe
▪️Major loss of military equipment and hardware; loss of confidence in key military planners and decision makers

It seems that the Russian Federations objective and alleged justification for intervention in the Ukraine; the denazification of the Ukraine; has not since been accomplished. They’ve taken major material losses after Ukrainian resistance far exceeded expectations leading to a conflict that has cost the Russian Federation far more than it originally predicted and planned for. Their war in the Ukraine has only had the effect of counteractively reversing years of political maneuvering and military expansion by the Russian Federation, which sought to prevent the expansion of NATO and the influence of the United States in Europe; which is now occurring at an unprecedented level not seen since the height of the Cold War.

The war has not yet concluded, however what has the Russian Federation truly accomplished thus far?
 

Bill Blazo

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I used to feel the Russians have a grand plan but so far, I've been disappointed. I think they need a large push to make up for the lack of success.

But didn't they just say they wanted to end it in a few days?

Time will tell
Peskov's comments today literally mean less than horse dung. It seems to have been an off-the-cuff remark, and in any case it takes two to tango. Peskov himself said the Ukrainians would need to agree to Russian conditions in order to get peace, and that ain't happening anytime soon! The war goes on.
 

Terrowyn

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Peskov's comments today literally mean less than horse dung. It seems to have been an off-the-cuff remark, and in any case it takes two to tango. Peskov himself said the Ukrainians would need to agree to Russian conditions in order to get peace, and that ain't happening anytime soon! The war goes on.
I don't know about that to be honest. Why is he being allowed to do an interview on Sky News in the first place?
 

Bill Blazo

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I don't know about that to be honest. Why is he being allowed to do an interview on Sky News in the first place?
Look the war could end in a few days. It's possible. But it just doesn't make sense with what's happening on the ground. The Russians are still conducting limited offensive operations, and obviously there's a huge ongoing siege in Mariupol. Then you add the reinforcements coming in and it just doesn't look like this thing is ending tomorrow.
 

Maikeru

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That is the kind of attitude that is really dangerous to have. The Finns seem to have drank the kool-aid.
Why do you think the Russians did not send their whole army into Ukraine? Their military actually went into this conflict with the notion they might have to fight NATO too.


Stalin started the Winter War because he wanted Finland to give up part of its territory next to the Soviet border so St. Petersburg (then Leningrad) got out of the range of Finnish artillery. Before the war started he tried to negotiate land swaps. When those failed the war started. Yet today, what do you see? Finland gets air launched cruise missiles with 500km range and wants to join NATO. Good luck.

The Finns forget they had a military garrison in their territory for over a decade to ensure compliance after the Continuation War. But if the Russians went in this time I doubt they would just settle for neutrality.
That was the might of the USSR against Finland alone. Now it would be the pathetic rump of Russia with its much=attrited forces fighting against the entirety of NATO. That's only going to end one way.
 

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"Teenage sisters 'raped' as horrors from Ukrainian town cut off for 35 days emerge"

"Two sisters [ages 15 and 16] were raped in one of the worst cases to emerge from a small
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town only just
reconnected with the outside world after 35 days of Russian occupation."

"“Women were pulled by their hair out of their basements, so that they could abuse them.
Girls started cutting their hair short to be less attractive, so no one looks at them anymore.”"

Rape is a crime for which the offenders are rarely punished.
Yet the victims must live--if they can (some take their own lives)--with the trauma for a long time.
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"I don't want to live': Mother of four tells of anguish after she was pinned down and raped by two Russian soldiers during
12 hours of brutality"

"A Ukrainian mother of four said she wanted to die after being raped for more than 12 hours by Russian soldiers.
Elena – not her real name – was attacked on April 3 after a Russian sympathiser in the southern Kherson region told the troops
her husband was a Ukrainian soldier on the front line.

Describing the assault, Elena, a midwife, said she was in a shop at 3pm when the soldiers came in and began talking to customers.
One pointed at her and said, 'She's a banderovka!' – a term referring to Ukrainian wartime nationalist leader Stepan Bandera, who
collaborated with the Nazis to fight
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Elena said: 'I quickly left the shop. I just had time to get into my house. Two Russian soldiers came in through the door after me.
Without a word, they pushed me on to the bed. They held me down with a rifle and stripped me. They didn't say much.
Sometimes they called me 'banderovka' or they said 'your turn' to each other. Then, at 4am, they left.'

Sobbing, she said it left her feeling 'very disgusting', adding: 'I don't want to live.' She also vowed to find those who betrayed her,
warning: 'I will point the finger at the people who singled me out. I will point them out to my husband.'
 
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