Ukrainian War Developments

SinoSoldier said:

Reddit community has been quarantined due to widespread lack of credibility and misinformation. It's better to double check these claims before trusting them.

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It's a video where you can see clearly identified Ukranian soldiers taking her flag and stepping on it and arguig over it. She is offered some food and then rejects its after they start to bully her.

Reddit admins are just helping run cover for Ukraine, like they rest of western media. Just like they helped astroturf Hong Kong's riot propaganda.

So, it was false :

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for potential military help lacked hard evidence, a European official and two U.S. officials said.

The U.S. officials said there are no indications China is considering providing weapons to Russia. The Biden administration put that out as a warning to China not to do so, they said.

The European official described the disclosure as “a public game to prevent any military support from China.”

Wangxi said:

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for potential military help lacked hard evidence, a European official and two U.S. officials said.

The U.S. officials said there are no indications China is considering providing weapons to Russia. The Biden administration put that out as a warning to China not to do so, they said.

The European official described the disclosure as “a public game to prevent any military support from China.”

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This making me sad to those who actually propagating the news and oblivious to the fact that there is so called "information war".

I have seen people willingly sacrifice their thought capacity and letting themselves be the channel for propaganda. Their cope when argued against is that "I know, i just want Ukrainian or Russian victory".

Poland wont provide free MiG's without replacement so does with Slovakia. so Why people willing to trade their thought capacity and letting themselves be the channel for infowars is mindboggling.

SinoSoldier said:

Reddit community has been quarantined due to widespread lack of credibility and misinformation. It's better to double check these claims before trusting them.

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Ah, yes, the Reddit admins - bastions of credibility and arbiters of accurate information.

Wangxi said:

So, it was false

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Of course it was false. You would have to be drooling to believe anything out of Washington.

SinoSoldier said:

Reddit community has been quarantined due to widespread lack of credibility and misinformation. It's better to double check these claims before trusting them.

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Nope, opposite is true. If reddit quarantines something that's a good sign that subreddit is based.

Abominable said:

Probably one of the better western assessments. I mean it's still bad but at least he tried to break down the possibilities in a logical manner. I disagree with it's conclusion obviously.

My opinion. We don't know the state of Ukraine's air defences, we can say that pre-war it could have been better. It consisted of older ex-Soviet platforms like S-300Vs, Strelka-1s, Buks and so on. Russia has been targeting them heavily but we can't say how much they've been weakened. Despite that they've managed to score some kills and it's clear that they pose some threat and must be respected. Ukraine's air force is a similar story. It's ex Soviet, has taken losses, but Russia can't discount the possibility of some sorties.

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The Soviet air defence (and all Soviet weapon) designed to be robust, degrade lineary, and be cabable to work on its own.

Means compared to the USA designs it is not possible to fully disable a Soviet IADS.


Similar thing happened in Serbia as well, the old, outdated and neglected system had very good performance, and the full NATO agressor force didn't managed ot degrade it.

Wangxi said:

So, it was false :
Likewise, a charge that Russia had turned to China for potential military help lacked hard evidence, a European official and two U.S. officials said.
The U.S. officials said there are no indications China is considering providing weapons to Russia. The Biden administration put that out as a warning to China not to do so, they said.
The European official described the disclosure as “a public game to prevent any military support from China.”

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I told you as much. The whole US argument was retarded. Russia is a major weapons exporter nation and a major food exporter. So why would they be asking for rations or military hardware from China? Stupid beyond belief. And China did well to state they would not stop military cooperation with Russia regardless of what the US said.

Latest map from southfront.

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So, it was false :

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for potential military help lacked hard evidence, a European official and two U.S. officials said.

The U.S. officials said there are no indications China is considering providing weapons to Russia. The Biden administration put that out as a warning to China not to do so, they said.

The European official described the disclosure as “a public game to prevent any military support from China.”

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As we suspected.

Chemical weapons was an obvious hoax. If America really had evidence that Russia was planning a chemical weapons attack they would announce a press conference, give information on the evidence they had gathered. That didn't happen. After Nuland accidently confirmed the presence of biolabs, the next day Psaki was asked about biolabs in Ukraine. She just responded "No we don't, and actually Russia is planning on using chemical weapons". You can see that moment here:

The article doesn't even seem to think what's happening is wrong or morally questionable. The argument seems to be, "we sometimes lie to you and the world, but it's okay because Russia is bad and Ukraine is good, and it's working great so far." It's no different to the Ghost of Kiev, the fake hospital bombings or the war crimes in Bucha being blamed on Russia that was likely done by Ukraine.

It's strange that it's coming out now and not 10 years like with Iraq. I guess enough people in the White House or Pentagon are fed up hearing the same lies again and again. That or they're massively incompetent.

I'm curious if in the future we would see way more intense air campaign in Western Ukraine, aimed at supply convoys or weapon stash. With the withdrawal of Russian ground forces there, ithere is practically no threat toward weapons convoys and supplies.

Cruise missiles and guided bombs works great on ammo dumps but the supply convoy itself requires it to be interdicted. Russians do hit oil storages and refineries but for military supplies. i would expect Ukraine to set up fuel station using bag-tank e.g MR-50 where western fuel would be dumped temporarily.


or they can actually try to build pipeline from say, Polish border where western diesel fuel might be stocked, down to their own in-country fuel distribution facility. such have advantage of being more easily concealed.