Ukrainian War Developments

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Strangelove

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War of 1941-2022, by a “Jeff Holy”, a Chinese artist.

Невскии is Nevsky, referring to Alexander Nevsky, 1221 – 1263, Prince of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Vladimir, who defeated Teutonic knights at the Battle on the Ice 1242. Невскии was also painted on IS-2 heavy tanks as they stormed Berlin in 1945. The message is clear.

Interestingly Nevsky cooperated with the Mongol overlords while fighting back German, Swedish and Estonian invaders.

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lcloo

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This seems "pretty" believeable, tho i think the Russian losses probably only lost half or even less than half of the losses that was shown
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One point to note is that during this war, Ukraine has lost its arms production capability while the Russians should able to increase their weapon productions to war time speed. But since the war is only a month old, new production weapons have not been seen in quantity in the battle field yet.

In a few months going forward, Russians should be able to replenish their war machines lost thus far. Ukraine's new source of weapons are NATO, and are subject to interception by Russian missiles.

In war of attrition, whoever has the staying power has the advantage and would likely be the winner. How long the Ukrainian can sustain their fighting capability now depends on NATO.
 
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Maikeru

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One point to note is that during this war, Ukraine has lost its arms production capability while the Russians should able to increase their weapon productions to war time speed. But since the war is only a month old, new production weapons have not been seen in quantity in the battle field yet.

In a few months going forward, Russians should be able to replenish their war machines lost thus far. Ukraine's new source of weapons now depend on NATO, and are subject to interception by Russian missiles.

In war of attrition, whoever has the staying power has the advantage and would likely br the winner. How long the Ukrainian can sustain their fighting capability now depends on NATO.
NATO countries can, of course, produce VASTLY more - and better - war materiel than Russia.
 

Intrepid

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NATO countries can, of course, produce VASTLY more - and better - war materiel than Russia.
The industry in the NATO countries can do that - and production has long since started. The governments and armies are not as fast as the industry because they are subject to the democratic decision-making process.
 

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NATO countries can, of course, produce VASTLY more - and better - war materiel than Russia.
It's more of a problem getting sufficient fresh supplies and equipment across the border to the eastern front. Also, most Ukrainians are trained on old Soviet hardware, not NATO heavy equipment, so superior war production of NATO won't help Ukraine really.
 

gelgoog

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it's highly unlikely it will be over any where near 2 months from now, IMO the real war has yet to begin.
Russia is not looking to take just the east, they want the whole of Ukraine however they need more soldiers for that. Apparently Russia will draft an extra 130k soldiers, these conscripts will need few months of training, however they will not be deployed to Ukraine but instead they will help free up an equal number of professional soldiers, this will help double the forces in Ukraine, IMO the war will last at least another 7 months and probably more.
No. This has been debunked already. Russia does conscription in two periods along the year. They do this in peace time. The amount of soldiers drafted this year was basically the same as usual. If the Russians were being realistic about increasing the number of troops in a big way they would just call the reserves i.e. the troops drafted, say, in the last 5 years who already finished their conscription time and are already trained.
That would basically double the amount of troops they had to use.

War of 1941-2022, by a “Jeff Holy”, a Chinese artist.

Невскии is Nevsky, referring to Alexander Nevsky, 1221 – 1263, Prince of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Vladimir, who defeated Teutonic knights at the Battle on the Ice 1242. Невскии was also painted on IS-2 heavy tanks as they stormed Berlin in 1945. The message is clear.

Interestingly Nevsky cooperated with the Mongol overlords while fighting back German, Swedish and Estonian invaders.
Russia historically when pressed from the East and West always chose to ally with the East. The East is further away from their population core and historically the Eastern rulers were always a lot more hands off than the Western ones would have been. I said this much here before.

NATO countries can, of course, produce VASTLY more - and better - war materiel than Russia.
So where is it then?
I know NATO have more and better aircraft. But the ground forces equipment is a bit hit and miss.
And the nuclear weapons is no contest. Russia's nukes and delivery systems are way better.
 

Gloire_bb

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NATO countries can, of course, produce VASTLY more - and better - war materiel than Russia.
They technically can.
By going into similar modes to fighting economies, and by fully - literally from scratch - rearming the Ukrainian army with western equipment. Which will be extremely difficult, considering that Ukraine isn't just "armed" with Soviet armament - it was(is) a birthplace of much of that Soviet armament. Level of necessary changes is astonishing, and, frankly speaking, is probably impossible during wartime.

But this is so far away from what's happening right now, and has so many repercussions and escalation potential, that I don't think there is even a point discussing it.
RN Russian army is vastly overmatching Ukrainian one in equipment and will continue to do so for foreseeable future. Both in equipment on hand and in its replenishment/update rate.
 
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