Ukrainian War Developments

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Atomicfrog

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Overbom said:
Ghost of Kiev is back?

"⚡️Ukraine shoots down 17 Russian aerial targets.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces report having destroyed eight planes, four UAVs, three helicopters, and two missiles."
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508591493312761858
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If the situation was so bad, why we don't see huge reinforcements ? Like trains full of tanks going west in Russia ? DO Russia hide troops movements ? Don't know what's happening at all... just strange that the fog of war is so dense.

Belarus are doing what we their troops ? Do we have news beside the ''Russian retreating'' around Kiev in Western media?. Could be interesting to see reaction if Russia say ''we need to remove our troops for nuking'', lol ! I don't imply using them, just making rumors to see reactions.
 
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Footage of Russian forces clearing through Mariupol. Seems Russian forces are using BTRs heavily to hit the remaining UAF positions. The UAF must still have AT munitions as these BTRs are very cautious to retreat back after engaging as to not expose themselves for extended periods of time.

 
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This confirms that all questions Biden gets at press conferences are preselected and approved. Press conferences are just public theatre. So much for America being a democracy.

The first answer doesn't even make sense. He's the president, the most powerful person in America. If he feels Putin needs to go then that should be American policy. Who decides what American policy is if it isn't him? Again, the idea that America is a democracy is a myth.

As for the second, it's clear that NATO is more divided than it's ever been. All Putin needs to do is invade Latvia or Poland after the Ukraine and NATO is finished.
 
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Overbom said:
FT story debunked? Gonna wait to make conclusions until we have a ceasefire deal which we can read and analyze
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508743462757228544
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I think the FT just doesn't know what a ceasefire is. It's a temporary pause to hostilities, usually so humanitarian aid can be delivered, dead bodies can be retrieved, or any other reason. Hostilities can be restarted by either side. Sometimes they can lead to the end of the war if both sides don't want to fight but that's clearly not going to happen here.

The 2014 war had many ceasefires.
 
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Apparently the Russia-Ukraine talks in Istanbul have ended.

The below would be a loss for Russia if true
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508785735347974152
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In the thread it mentions that Ukraine requires security guarantors incase they are a target of an attack, but it included China? Did they even consult or got China to agree with this? This may just be propaganda from the Ukraine side to make it seems like negotiations are going somewhere and that Russia capitulated on their previous demands.
 
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Overbom said:
Apparently the Russia-Ukraine talks in Istanbul have ended.

The below would be a loss for Russia if true
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508785735347974152
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Why should China be expected to guarantee Ukrainian security? Fxxk that.

I'll be interested to hear what the options will be for denazification & demilitarisation, not to mention territorial losses. Apparently Kherson has now switched over to rubles and Russian language as well.

Personally I think the peace talks are just a game to give Russia time to finish the Ukraine off, but we'll see if anything meaningful comes out of it.
 
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solarz said:
Are there any actual sources indicating the Chechens performing better than other Russian units?
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Coalescence said:
In the thread it mentions that Ukraine requires security guarantors incase they are a target of an attack, but it included China? Did they even consult or got China to agree with this? This may just be propaganda from the Ukraine side to make it seems like negotiations are going somewhere and that Russia capitulated on their previous demands.
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russia is likely to want to include china as the only non-hostile great power with significant weight to throw around in any arrangement.

Again, the short sighted, xenophobic and close minded attitude of some chinese to taking part in security arrangements in the western world is really puzzling. Being part of such arrangement does not preclude china from simply pulling up stakes and leaving if the arrangement collapses, but it give china opportunity to exact a price for collaborating to get done, or at least not obstructing things that needs to be done under the arrangement while the arrangement stands. It’s called a proactive if opportunistic foreign policy.
 
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Bill Blazo

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It's difficult to know what to make of the talks in Istanbul. Difficult to know how sincere both sides are. Difficult to know about ulterior motives. Difficult to know if it's just political and diplomatic posturing to play for more time on the battlefield, hoping to score an extra win here and there. Because it's difficult to know these things, it's also hard to say what to make of the media reports coming out. The stuff about the Russians reducing military activity in the northern front would make sense based on what's happening on the ground. I doubt the Russians will leave Chernobyl, but I can totally see them doing a strategic retreat from Kyiv. Heck, that's what I would do: get as many troops as possible to the eastern front. We'll see over the next week how much of this was posturing and how much of it produced any tangible changes on the ground.
 
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