Soviet not Russian. And where did the Ukrainians dig this things from ? Aren't they like 70 years old now or something?
Ukrainian War Developments
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Both the Russians and Ukraines still use YMAM and YARM naval mines; it’s unclear which side they belong too and both the Ukrainians and the Russians blame each other for their employment. We probably will never know for sure but I wouldn’t discredit them being of Russian origin.
Either way their employment is due to ongoing hostilities between both countries and is a direct result of a Russian invasion of the Ukraine; this is going to a present a problem for Black Sea states for months if not years to come.
"A lot of people, including myself, have given the Russians a ton of crap about their performance in the war thus far.
But now the Russians deserve some credit for learning from their past mistakes and coming up with a sound war plan."
In some ways, this war may be compared to the Winter War 1939-40, when the USSR invaded Finland.
NATO members have given Ukraine enough aid to bleed the Russians, but not enough to defeat them.
"Despite superior military strength, especially in tanks and aircraft, the Soviet Union suffered severe losses and initially made
little headway. The deemed the attack illegal and expelled the Soviet Union from the organisation.
The Soviets made several demands, including that Finland cede substantial border territories in exchange for land elsewhere,
claiming security reasons—primarily the protection of , 32 km (20 mi) from the Finnish border. When Finland refused,
the Soviets invaded. Most sources conclude that the Soviet Union had intended to conquer all of Finland, and use the establishment
of the and the 's secret protocols as evidence of this, while
other sources argue against the idea of a full Soviet conquest. Finland repelled Soviet attacks for more than two months and
inflicted substantial losses on the invaders while temperatures ranged as low as −43 °C (−45 °F)."
"After the Soviet military reorganized and adopted different tactics, they renewed their offensive in February and overcame
Finnish defences.
Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the in which Finland ceded 9% of its territory to the
Soviet Union. Soviet losses were heavy, and the country's international reputation suffered. Their gains exceeded their pre-war
demands, and the Soviets received substantial territories along and further north. Finland retained its and
enhanced its international reputation."
--Wikipedia
Why would the Russians want to mine the black sea? The Ukrainians have no navy anymore. You think they are afraid of sea monsters?
Maybe submarines....and not Ukrainians ones.
There is still at least one fast missile craft unaccounted for that has not credibly been sunk or captured that would pose a serious threat to the loitering landing ships in the area. The Russian military is still mopping up remnants of the Ukrainian navy; for context they recently sunk a Ukrainian surveillance ship that had been loitering near the border of Romania. Not to mention the Russians have been keen on preventing merchant marine ships from making it to Ukraine, they’ve already struck several with missiles.
It was most likely the Ukrainians that deployed the naval mines but there is probable cause for the Russian navy to employ mines as well.
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Gostomel counterattack not going well I take it.
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Are there any actual sources indicating the Chechens performing better than other Russian units?
Tanks in the hangar don't look so bad !
Kherson "counteroffensive" falls apart thanks to Su-25 and arty strikes
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