I’m not too familiar with that subject. You would have to ask the more knowledgeable users about that one. All I know is that the Chinese are progressing rapidly in engine development and don’t really need Russia anymore.
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I'm just gonna provide you a source, take this with some scepticism
Any official confirmations already?
Yep. The early batches of the J- series aircraft still use Russian engines. It was relatively recent that the Chinese went only for domestic engines. In regards to the “Russians having the edge” aspect, I cannot comment on that. There are specific threads that are dedicated to that, and you can ask or search there. Some of the users are famous in this field like @Deino and @Bltizo
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"The only area where Russia retains a lead in Flanker development terms is in engines, with the AL-41F series powering
the Su-35S still providing superior thrust and reliability compared to the WS-10B series."
--Justin Bronk (30 October 2020)
Why don't you ask Justin Bronk? He's writing on the war in Ukraine.
On a related note, videos of Russian POWs being interrogated after getting shot through the legs on arrival (one of the videos show this at the end). At least one POW is dead. The second video is subtitled.
Edit: I noticed that this was shared earlier but the Twitter video cut out the shootings at the end of the 3 minute video. I don't believe in censorship by omission.
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Edit: I noticed that this was shared earlier but the Twitter video cut out the shootings at the end of the 3 minute video. I don't believe in censorship by omission.
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Some people here apparently like to make ignorant projections or stereotypes about me.
They seem to act as if I never have used a Russian source before in my life.
On the contrary, as a child, I used some Russian books in mathematics.
Here's an article by a Russian historian:
"Historic roots of the Donbass problem explained.
The region has a distinct identity and doesn’t fit neatly into either Russia or Ukraine."
"However, Donbass’ distinctiveness, although somewhat faded, had not completely disappeared. The region’s way of life still
significantly differed from that in the rest of Ukraine. The industrial, Russian-speaking and largely ethnically Russian region
retained its distinct character both during the era of incredible upheavals in the first half of the 20th century and the stagnant
times of the late USSR. And it has, likewise, been preserved since the Soviet Union collapsed, in 1991."
It's far from unusual for a borderland to develop a distinctive identity.
Both Russia and Ukraine have accused each other of genocide (a term too easily thrown around).
As far as I can tell, both accusations seem exaggerated (at best).
There has been bitter fighting in Donbas; I suspect that both sides have most likely committed war crimes.
So each side's propaganda features its own victims and ignores the other side's victims.
Even if hundreds or thousands of civilians have been killed in several years of fighting, that's not enough to constitute genocide.
Some writers here have been arguing that Russia's invasion is justified to stop an ongoing genocide in Donbas.
Putin may be using the Donbas like Hitler used the Sudetenland. The Sudeten Germans did experience some discrimination.
But that hardly justified Hitler's threatening a war to 'liberate' them from Czechoslovakia.
"At the end of the day, you do what you think is right for those under your care/rule, and you use your might to check
that of your opponents to make sure your right comes out on top."
That's your prolix restatement of 'Might makes right.'
Taking by force whatever (or whomever) you desire may have various names, but none of them are nice.
Now that we know Russia likely does not have the manpower to take kiev and western ukraine, it seems like the end game for russia's military action is as follows:
1. most of ukrainian forces east of Dnieper destroyed, especially in the Donbass.
2. some smaller cities such as sumy and chernikiv will be taken, but large cities like kharkov, odessa and kiev will simply be isolated and encircled.
3. russia secures at a minimum eastern bank of dnieper, and preferably the western bank, if possible.
4. russia would not move into western ukraine, but will maintain regular bombardment on military targets.
If russia can achieve these aims, then it will be in a good position for negotiations to end the war, and will likely end up with control of eastern ukraine.
1. most of ukrainian forces east of Dnieper destroyed, especially in the Donbass.
2. some smaller cities such as sumy and chernikiv will be taken, but large cities like kharkov, odessa and kiev will simply be isolated and encircled.
3. russia secures at a minimum eastern bank of dnieper, and preferably the western bank, if possible.
4. russia would not move into western ukraine, but will maintain regular bombardment on military targets.
If russia can achieve these aims, then it will be in a good position for negotiations to end the war, and will likely end up with control of eastern ukraine.
Precisely. And I was worried you wouldn't get the ol' adage.
"Have all the PLAAF's fighters converted from their original Russian engines to Chinese engines yet?"
Note that I did not write that *should* be done. I simply asked if that has been done.
For whatever it's worth, when Kawasaki replaced the inline engine in the KI-61 Hien with a radial engine
(which was very different in shape), it produced the Ki-100, one of Japan's best fighters of the Second World War.
I was well aware that China's aircraft industry has long struggled with developing reliable advanced engines.
(I have disputed racists who smugly claimed that all Chinese engineers are incapable of doing that work.)
When checked every year or two, I noticed reports promising that a new engine would be ready soon.
Then years would pass and it still was not ready. So it's nice to know that progress has been made.
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They have dug their own "grave". This is exactly what Chechens did and now Chechens are biggest supporter of Putin. Same thing will happen. Ukraine will not be neutral but "transform" into a supporter or even part of Russia if it goes like this..
They have dug their own "grave". This is exactly what Chechens did and now Chechens are biggest supporter of Putin. Same thing will happen. Ukraine will not be neutral but "transform" into a supporter or even part of Russia if it goes like this..
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