Ukrainian War Developments

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Darkon112

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They have been training nazis, they have been arming nazis, they KNOW they are nazis and not a single time has NATO pressured the Ukrainians to drop their nazi bullshit as a prerequisite to get support.

And for the past two months, they have even been running cover for them and their atrocities.

And they have been doing this shit since they helped coup Ukraine in 2014.

So, tell me how NATO isnt at least partially responsible for this?

Not to mention western media ignoring this or trying to remove it.
 

pmc

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It isn't an either or option. You can use attack helicopters, ground support aircraft and drones.
i agree every system has its own utility and effectiveness. it is just that attack drones have been used for less. so why would they add more drones with similar characteristics?
Compared to the number of personnel required to maintain helicopters or aircraft sorties?
helicopter is part of combined system of assaults and attack choppers and engine reliability/ maintenance are known to a higher degree of confidence.

They do carry less ordinance, but you can mitigate that by increasing the number of drones you deploy. You can also have those drones split up and covering a larger area, something you can't do with a single plane.
this also need increasing drone operators, increasing small weopons. as drones are only used from long runways in well developed fields. it limit where and when it can show up when dealing with such large geographic area like Ukraine.
Self protection from what? Ukraine's defences have already been largely suppressed. Even if one is shot down, it's better that missile hit a drone than a su-25.
unlike drones. Ka-52/Su-25 have option of low altitude flight with protection. it is time and effectiveness important to clear area for ground troops as fast as possible. Pilot alone is not only person that is important.
I doubt these tubes for high speed missiles can be implemented on drones. with new AESA radar SEAD/DEAD against even long range SAMs possible. as helicopter can pop to high altitude fire the high speed missile and goes down to lower height.
current drones are limited to 4 weopons per sortie with far slower missiles. with no practical ability shown so far for non-symmetrical loads.
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If you bought them before the war started you would have been fine. Now it will be a political issue.

It's much more expensive to use large ballistic & cruise missiles than PGB.
PGB need to be carried by air force. using CM/BM decrease the need of sorties. Russia maximum known sortie rate of aircraft is 300 per day.


Again, drones aren't the solution to all problems. But you are refusing to acknowledge the unique advantages drones have.
i never said drones are only solution it is just they are way underutilized in strike form. Russia has alteast two or three manufacturing plants that make attack drones.
To me it seems Russia isn't able to deploy enough Orions for it to make a difference so they're not bothering. Or they're just stubborn and refuse to integrate a new platform.
or they have learned from long middleast conflicts what works and what not works . remember ground troops need to be rotated for rest. they cannot wait months for airpower to soften the targets and still have to deal with insurgency. currrent low altitude flight mode is to decrease the burden on ground troops by doing classic CAS.
 

SinoSoldier

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There is a reason why Russians don't allow their forces to operate phones during combat; their signals could be triangulated and their locations approximated for targeting by enemy forces, and for the average recruit who doesn't know better than to
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, these regulations are vital in keeping their forces safe.

That being said, this above moron just exposed his location to everyone and anyone looking to hunt this guy (even if using a Wi-Fi based calling service like WhatsApp), so it'll just be a matter of time before a Chechen unit or Kalibr missile finds their way to his ass.
 

Lapin

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Good to see Zelensky addressing reports that Russian POW have mistreated. It's just words of course, and it would need to be followed by action. But better than ignoring it and letting it get out of hand.

Despite what the media is saying, death rates on both sides have been relatively low given how many soldiers are currently in action. Civilian casualties also are likely to be less military deaths.
It doesn't take much for a war to descend into a total bloodbath.

He's still not doing anything about the fact that Ukrainian civilians are being publicly tortured by nazi militia in regions he controls, but until Ukraine is liberated that's his problem.
As I recall, Ukraine earlier threatened to execute all captured Russian artillery crew members because it blamed them
for committing war crimes by shelling areas with civilians. Those summary executions would be a war crime.
 
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