Ukrainian War Developments

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Black Shark

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Can't wait to see all those proofs on bird bioweapons in those super secret labs which can be found on Google Maps and are funded by the Ukrainian Goverment and which have received funds and support by the USA, EU and WHO for years. Totally secret by the way!
And this is your defence now after calling Russia lying that these bioweapons were made up? Wow what kind of mental gymnastics you americans have. It is indeed some form of indication that you are more worm-like than anything else. Such spinless character can not gain any empathy when you are squeeling in pain. The western hemisphere has sealed its death and global hegemonic policy. It will soon stop to exist. Hell even Iran recognized how impotent the West and the US is and killed your soldiers with ballistic missiles. I mean the Persian balls must be really big.)))
 

ArmchairAnalyst

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Are the Ukrainian running out of heavy machine guns?! This round doesn't even fit the bulk of Ukrainian ammunitions in storage. Why not give them something that they can fire their own ammunitions with?
Maybe they just lack weapons of all kinds due to the general mobilisation?
It would actually be kind of interesting to know the total number of Ukranian soldiers now.
 

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Jingle Bells

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Ukraine is very large and to position on every road a machine gun you need a lot of them.
Give them weapons that logistically fit their existing industry/supply-chains.

An M2 is NOT a special force equipment, nor a complex guided weapons (like Javelins/Stingers). Just like if you are supplying Afghans to fight against Soviets, wouldn't it be better to give them something that can fire 7.62x39 which they have an abundant existing ammo to resupply, instead of a 5.56 which once ran out of ammo, will be very difficult to resupply?

It's the same idea with the suggestions of supplying Mig29s and S-300 to Ukrainian, because it will be systems that their existing forces can operate, maintain, and use their existing weapons in storage.

NATO countries definitely have heavy machine guns that can fire Ukrainian rounds. Why give them a one-trick-pony M2, instead of anything that fires 12.7x108 like the DShK or the NSV. I am pretty sure former Warsaw Pack member nations has a lot of those.
 

Jingle Bells

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20 Mio. out of a population of 40 Mio. People. The other 20 Mio. are woman.
For a 20 million strong army with contemporary weaponry and NATO support/supplies, they are doing a pretty shitty job against mere 200,000 Russian in their own home turf.....

Maybe they just lack weapons of all kinds due to the general mobilisation?
It would actually be kind of interesting to know the total number of Ukranian soldiers now.
Things doesn't look good this way for Ukraine.
 

daifo

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A South Korean former Navy Seal and YouTuber Ken Rhee went to Ukraine to fight the Russians But when he arrived in Ukraine panicked and fled to Ukrainian-Polish border,but Poland did not let him to enter the country now he is begging the South Korean Foreign Ministry to help him :

Seems to be some truth to this. His "team" of foreign fighters got liquidated last week and the rest fled acording to his instagram post last week which he deleted. If he stays in ukraine he is screwed, but if he returns to korea, he is facing jail time too

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Abominable

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Are the Ukrainian running out of heavy machine guns?! This round doesn't even fit the bulk of Ukrainian ammunitions in storage. Why not give them something that they can fire their own ammunitions with?

Wait, is the Ukrainians running out of heavy machine gun rounds?!
What are Ukrainians going to do with that Browning when it runs out of ammo? Are the Americans really planning on supplying ammo for every single platform they have for as long as this war goes on?

It reminds me of the Soviet Afghanistan war where suppliers from all over the world were happy to sell what they wanted regardless of whether it was suitable for the task at hand. It was more about corruption and the need to do something for appearances sake. The difference is it's happening over a few weeks rather than over a decade.

Look at the number of different western ATGM platforms going into Ukraine, yet on the frontline a lot of videos still show Ukrainians using Soviet era RPGs. A Javelin is great if you've got a jeep to drive it around in to and from the frontline, but if you're an army with stretched supply lines with limited fuel and vehicles, you'll struggle to carry it around. I'm thinking that's why so many of them are being abandoned by the Ukrainians.
 

redion

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Give them weapons that logistically fit their existing industry/supply-chains.

An M2 is NOT a special force equipment, nor a complex guided weapons (like Javelins/Stingers). Just like if you are supplying Afghans to fight against Soviets, wouldn't it be better to give them something that can fire 7.62x39 which they have an abundant existing ammo to resupply, instead of a 5.56 which once ran out of ammo, will be very difficult to resupply?

It's the same idea with the suggestions of supplying Mig29s and S-300 to Ukrainian, because it will be systems that their existing forces can operate, maintain, and use their existing weapons in storage.

NATO countries definitely have heavy machine guns that can fire Ukrainian rounds. Why give them a one-trick-pony M2, instead of anything that fires 12.7x108 like the DShK or the NSV. I am pretty sure former Warsaw Pack member nations has a lot of those.
The Ukrainian Army is bringing everything which makes bang , back in service. I am not saying that because is old that automatically is not good if gets the job done example bellow
 
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