Ukrainian War Developments

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Anlsvrthng

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james smith esq said:
Has anyone else considered that Zelensky might be under pressure to ”keep up the fight” until certain outcomes of the sanctions have been achieved?
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The sanctions will stay forewer.

Reson of the contionous fight is to cause the highest ammount of damage, and to delay the next, NATO-Russia collision about the USA weapon systems.
 
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I think it's important to have some broader perspective about the losses on both sides, especially since it's such an active topic of conversation here. If you include equipment held in reserve, then Russia has roughly 60,000 ground vehicles (let that number sink in for a moment). They’ve lost about 1,400 ground vehicles so far in the war, or 2.3% of their total. That's bad, no doubt, but it's not catastrophic to the overall Russian military. Based on my comments before about the vast undersampling of Ukrainian losses, I estimate that Ukraine has lost roughly 700 ground vehicles. Ukraine has a total of roughly 12,000 vehicles, so it has lost about 5.8% of its total inventory. As a percentage of what they have in total, the Ukrainians have lost more than the Russians. This remains true even if you go with more conservative numbers from Oryx and other public sources. And if this war drags on for a long time, it's this statistic that will matter far more than total absolute losses.

That's one thing. The other thing to keep in mind are factors like quality and utility; not all losses are equally significant. About one-third of all Russian losses are trucks and jeeps, which can be easily replaced in a heartbeat from both military and civilian sources (and the Russians already have). By contrast, Ukraine has pretty much lost its navy in this war. The scuttled flagship alone weighed 3,500 tons, equivalent to about 60 Russian tanks. Losing a navy is far more devastating than losing a few jeeps. And then there's critical energy and industrial infrastructure, like factories and warehouses. The Ukrainians have lost virtually all of that, so they're now almost exclusively reliant on Western aid to keep the war going. By contrast, Russia will continue to pump out equipment and replace losses for as long as it needs, simply because it can. Not a single Russian factory has been hit in this war. If the conflict continues for a few more months, Russia's industrial advantage will start to matter more and more, just because they'll be able to replace heavy equipment losses (like tanks) while the Ukrainians cannot.
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Loss of Ukrainian navy is not serious because it had almost no military or strategic value to start with.

If Russia only managed to take out 5% of Ukrainian operational military vehicle pool after 3 weeks then that is very poor showing. A good way to make Ukraine give up is to take out Ukraine’s military vehicle fleet, force the Ukraine to impress large number of civilian vehicles into service, the attack any civilian vehicle that moves to paralyze any evacuation or emigration effort. You want millions of Ukrainians stranded in the open.
 
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james smith esq said:
Has anyone else considered that Zelensky might be under pressure to ”keep up the fight” until certain outcomes of the sanctions have been achieved?
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Even if he were to reach a peace agreement with Russia it’s very unlikely that the commanders in the field will listen. Hell a military coup may happen. Very likely he will move the capital to Lviv when it looks like Kiev is lost.
 
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james smith esq said:
Has anyone else considered that Zelensky might be under pressure to ”keep up the fight” until certain outcomes of the sanctions have been achieved?
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There were a lot of Twitter threads yesterday saying that Zelensky feels emboldened by the recent decision of Biden to ship so many weapons to Ukraine.
Allegedly, he is now thinking of more fighting
 
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Anlsvrthng said:
The sanctions will stay forewer.

Reson of the contionous fight is to cause the highest ammount of damage, and to delay the next, NATO-Russia collision about the USA weapon systems.
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No they won't. America is led by traitors who are actively dismantling the country from inside. If you think the progenitor of these sanctions will still be around in the near to distant future as we recognize them today, you are mistaken.

The only thing that can turn America around is a Trump resurgence, ehich gives them 5 year extension on survival, And it's not happening.

Unless the American populace suddenly regain control of their brains, and see the destruction their MSM is doing to them. They won't.
 
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memfisa said:
No they won't. America is led by traitors who are actively dismantling the country from inside. If you think the progenitor of these sanctions will still be around in the near to distant future as we recognize them today, you are mistaken.

The only thing that can turn America around is a Trump resurgence, ehich gives them 5 year extension on survival, And it's not happening.

Unless the American populace suddenly regain control of their brains, and see the destruction their MSM is doing to them. They won't.
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Just hatched and on to ignore list, already!
 
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