Ukrainian War Developments

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Bill Blazo

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Perhaps those criticising Oryx can point us to a more accurate open source loss aggregator? Preferably one that isn't unsubstantiated partisan guesses at the other side's losses? Rather than desperately trying and failing to debunk Oryx on the basis that he allegedly mis-identified a couple of burned out hulks of Russian tanks?

No?

Thought not.
Are you responding to anyone in particular? Or are you shouting into the void and hoping somebody cares?
 

james smith esq

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Are you responding to anyone in particular? Or are you shouting into the void and hoping somebody cares?
!!!AT LEAST HE’S NOT POSTING IN BOLDED ALL CAPS!!!

Not to play “daddy”, here, but, what I do when commentators have established a pattern of consistently posting unreliable or purely partisan (either side) “information”, is simply to BLOCK them. It actually makes the thread much less cluttered and more informative.
 
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Abominable

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I know, where this NATO peace keeping force may contribute for the society... in the YELLOW zone, to pacify the Nazi plague etc... indeed Poland may take back some of their former territory if they wish.

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3. Further west will lie a zone that will be wrapped in fancy paper with ribbons and bows and presented as an extra-special present to the EU to love to cherish and to suffer migraines and aneurisms over. Roughly speaking, the YELLOW AREA is Ukrainian-speaking and is an all-you-can-eat (please don’t choke) buffet for the West. It has relatively POOR SOIL and high incidence of iodine deficiency and IMBECILITY in the general population. It is also where Ukrainian NATIONALISM comes from and where the CURRENT UKRAINIAN NAZI PLAGUE ORIGINATED. The Russian stance should be (if I may be so bold as to recommend what the Russian government should do) along the lines of “If you like your Ukrainian Nazis, you can have your Ukrainian Nazis.”

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Agreed, except Russia should stipulate that the peacekeepers are Lithuanians. Then China can step in...
 

Michaelsinodef

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Perhaps those criticising Oryx can point us to a more accurate open source loss aggregator?
What's wrong with criticising Oryx when it's clear that they have a Ukranian bias (and their numbers is 100% very off when it comes to ukranian losses, way too low), as for their counts on russian losses, I'm personally not that against it (definitely not correct, but maybe just off about 20%ish? It kinda gives an overall picture I would say).
Preferably one that isn't unsubstantiated partisan guesses at the other side's losses? Rather than desperately trying and failing to debunk Oryx on the basis that he allegedly mis-identified a couple of burned out hulks of Russian tanks?
It's basically been you that's been constantly pushing Oryx into people's faces in this thread, so people are probably getting annoyed (especially because Oryx clearly has a Ukranian bias, so its numbers needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, which you don't seem to do).
Maybe try and be more patient, we're still in the fog of war especially when it comes to the numbers of losses (man and equipment).
 

Bellum_Romanum

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It's better to look at how state media covered the call:
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Short and to the point, as expected.

The main things Biden would have been asking for is assurances that China would not provide military aid to Russia, and for China to play a mediator role in Russia-Ukraine negotiations. He received neither of those, even according to western coverage of the call.

No change in position overall. It's hilarious how the western media have interpreted such a short phone call in so many different ways.
They're not called western "presstitutes" got nothing. They literally have to invent a narrative that's not just politically palatable but also plays the U.S. and her vassals as heroic figures battling against the evils of the world. It's the marvelization of news, and everything that involves America.
 

Insignius

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Russian cruise missile attack against Nikolaev today apparently.

Lots of dead soldiers, apparently lots of high ranking officers as well. Russia apparently held off attacking this well known base due to the talks, but since the ultimatum passed without surrender, they now got roasted as promised.
Wonder how long it will take for Oryx and our resident Hohol fans here to paint white Z's on them and claim them as Russian casualties lmao.

There are more pictures, but they show a lot more gore. Let's not be like the Hohols here who make footages of them pissing on Russian corpses and stuff like that.

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Perhaps those criticising Oryx can point us to a more accurate open source loss aggregator? Preferably one that isn't unsubstantiated partisan guesses at the other side's losses? Rather than desperately trying and failing to debunk Oryx on the basis that he allegedly mis-identified a couple of burned out hulks of Russian tanks?

No?

Thought not.

Not related to the Ukraine issue at hand, but Oryx has a bad rep here since they posted some misinformation about "defective" Chinese drones
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Meanwhile TB-2 is treated like Mjolnir/Excalibur/Durandal/Joyeuse/Muramasa/Green Dragon combined
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