Ukrainian War Developments

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SanWenYu

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LARA LOGAN (FOX NATION HOST): I don't buy it for a second, and I'll be honest with you. I really think that there's so much misinformation. We've never really seen anything like it. I mean, I've been covering wars now for 35 years. And I have never seen people with their nails done in the Ukrainian flag. Right? I mean, we're being corralled into this box where we either have to hate the Vladimir Putin and believe everything evil that's said about him, and love Ukraine, and there's no in between. And that reminds me a lot of you're either, you know, a white supremacist or you go with the Democrat narrative on everything under the sun.


So Vladimir Putin knew exactly what he was doing when he went into Ukraine. The Russian military isn't perfect. They — for example, I've spoken to multiple defense specialists and intelligence specialists from a defense intelligence agency who've studied the Russian military for years. They do have difficulty mounting complex air operations because they do very little training hours in comparison to, for example, the United States. Air assets right now, fighter jet pilots, but Russia is not struggling.


What Russia has done from the very beginning has been very strategic. They didn't go straight to Kyiv. They went to all those bioweapons laboratories that are scattered all over the country. Some of them they built. So they know where they are. They've known where they are since the Soviet Union, because under the defense threat reduction program, we went in after the fall of the Soviet Union, and supposedly they turned those facilities from bioweapons labs into public health labs. Although, you know, these days, it's hard to believe anything that our leaders tell us because they've lied about COVID. They lied about Russia collusion. They lied about the Ukraine impeachment trial.


And there's so much more going on in Ukraine that nobody is talking about. You see such dishonesty when it comes to the history of Ukraine. You see dishonesty when it comes to the Azov Battalion, which is funded by the U.S. and NATO. I mean, you can find pictures of them online holding up the NATO flag and the swastika. And at the same time, their own emblem contains the black sun of the occult, which was a Nazi SS emblem. And it also contains the sideways, you know, lightning insignia of the SS. I mean, this is on throughout the Ukrainian military you can see that black sun of the occult on their body armor, even on the female soldiers who are paraded in front of the world as being, you know, such an example of Ukraine's independence and spirit and nobility. Even they are wearing the black sun of the occult. And, you know, we want — the White House wants you to believe, well, this doesn't matter; it's just a small number of troops. It's not true. The Azov Battalion has been murdering its way through eastern Ukraine.


HENRY: Yeah.


LOGAN: We don't want to admit this. This was why Crimea voted for independence. This is why Crimea wanted to be with Russia.


HENRY: Sure.


LOGAN: Because we in the media, in the western media and in the west, won't acknowledge the reality of what's gone on: Western Ukraine backed the Nazis. It was a headquarters for the Nazis SS. The CIA under Allen Dulles actually gave immunity from prosecution to the Nazis of Ukraine from the Nuremberg trials. So there's a long history of the United States and our intelligence agencies funding and arming Nazis in Ukraine. These are not, like, new neo-Nazi groups that sprung up. These are the actual Nazis. From the second World War who, if you go back to the Nuremberg trials, said that they were planning for a thousand-year reich. And so you have to really wonder as you look at this, when you know that the CIA sponsored the color revolution in Ukraine in 2013 and '14, that they selected Ukraine's leaders; go to Victoria Nuland's leaked phone conversation where she and the U.S. ambassador are deciding who can lead Ukraine.


HENRY: Right.


LOGAN: I mean, there's as much interference here as you could possibly imagine, before we even get to Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Mitt Romney and all of their children who are employed — who earn millions — from Ukrainian gas companies.

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AndrewS

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Potentially 40,000 Syrian mercenaries signing up for Russia.

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The first Syrian troops to join Putin’s ranks – an advance force of 150 – arrived in Russia on Thursday, European intelligence officials claim. Ukrainian military intelligence, echoing a claim by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, believes 40,000 Syrians have signed up to fight – a figure that would represent a sizeable chunk of the battle-ready capacity of the country’s entire military.

In the economic wasteland of post-war Syria, the best – and maybe only – state-backed job on offer is one that those who sign on for might not come home from. The vast majority of newly enlisted Syrian mercenaries are trading in salaries of $15 a month for monthly deals worth between $600 and $3,000. Rank and experience in the gruelling decade of insurrection attracts the higher dollars, but even the basic salary is luring recruits who have few ways out of overwhelming poverty.

Syrians have shown a readiness to sign up at least 14 recruitment centres across the country, in Aleppo, Damascus, Deir Azzour, Homs and Hama, as well as Raqqa, which less than five years ago was at the centre of the war against Islamic State.

theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/18/syrians-join-russian-ranks-in-ukraine-as-putin-calls-in-assads-debt
 

taxiya

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Here is the full texts of the Xi-Biden conference from Xinhua agency.

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Some veiled punches to the Biden's face.

About China US relationship
习近平指出,目前,中美关系还没有走出美国上一届政府制造的困境,反而遭遇了越来越多的挑战。特别是美国一些人向“台独”势力发出错误信号,这是十分危险的。台湾问题如果处理不好,将会对两国关系造成颠覆性影响。希望美方予以足够重视。中美关系之所以出现目前的局面,直接原因是,美方一些人没有落实我们两人达成的重要共识,也没有把总统先生的积极表态落到实处。美方对中方的战略意图作出了误读误判。

The direct cause of today's (bad) situation between China and US is because some people in the US administration do not do what you and I agreed, they do not do according to your "positive" expression. The US side has made mistake in understanding China's strategic intentions.


In sarcastic mocking style, China is saying "you are a good guy, you made good promises, your subordinates are bad, they cheated on you, disobeyed you." In straight style, China is saying, you are a liar because it is the whole US side I am blaming that includes you.

About Ukraine,
各方应该共同支持俄乌对话谈判,谈出结果、谈出和平。美国和北约也应该同俄罗斯开展对话,解开乌克兰危机的背后症结,化解俄乌双方的安全忧虑。

US and NATO should also talk to Russia, to solve the truth cause, to address the security concerns of both Russia and Ukraine.

Straight meaning, you are the root cause of the shit storm, deal with it, don't hide behind Ukraine and play dumb.

中国有两句老话,一句是“一个巴掌拍不响”,另一句是“解铃还须系铃人”。
China has two old sayings, "it needs two hands to make clapping sound", "only the one who tied the bell to the tiger should take it off".


Straight meaning, you are responsible for the crisis, don't pretend to be innocent. Your shit, you clean it.
 

Jingle Bells

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Here is the full texts of the Xi-Biden conference from Xinhua agency.

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Some veiled punches to the Biden's face.

About China US relationship
习近平指出,目前,中美关系还没有走出美国上一届政府制造的困境,反而遭遇了越来越多的挑战。特别是美国一些人向“台独”势力发出错误信号,这是十分危险的。台湾问题如果处理不好,将会对两国关系造成颠覆性影响。希望美方予以足够重视。中美关系之所以出现目前的局面,直接原因是,美方一些人没有落实我们两人达成的重要共识,也没有把总统先生的积极表态落到实处。美方对中方的战略意图作出了误读误判。

The direct cause of today's (bad) situation between China and US is because some people in the US administration do not do what you and I agreed, they do not do according to your "positive" expression. The US side has made mistake in understanding China's strategic intentions.


In sarcastic mocking style, China is saying "you are a good guy, you made good promises, your subordinates are bad, they cheated on you, disobeyed you." In straight style, China is saying, you are a liar because it is the whole US side I am blaming that includes you.

About Ukraine,
各方应该共同支持俄乌对话谈判,谈出结果、谈出和平。美国和北约也应该同俄罗斯开展对话,解开乌克兰危机的背后症结,化解俄乌双方的安全忧虑。

US and NATO should also talk to Russia, to solve the truth cause, to address the security concerns of both Russia and Ukraine.


Straight meaning, you are the root cause of the shit storm, deal with it, don't hide behind Ukraine and play dumb.

中国有两句老话,一句是“一个巴掌拍不响”,另一句是“解铃还须系铃人”。
China has two old sayings, "it needs two hands to make clapping sound", "only the one who tied the bell to the tiger should take it off".


Straight meaning, you are responsible for the crisis, don't pretend to be innocent. Your shit, you clean it.
I don't think people here care about what both side EXACTLY said and discussed in the actual conference. I think people here care about only the media aspect of the conference, which is an important new dimension of the modern world.

Just like Ghost of Kiev, Mig transfer deals, S-300 transfer deals. All of these does NOT necessarily need to be true in reality. But the ripple effect these incurs as a result of media cover of these, are an important aspect of Media/Information Warfare.

This is why this is an era when Reason and Truth no longer matters; EMOTIONS, allegiance and IMPULSES rule supreme. You're either for us or against us, your words either pleases us or displeases us. Truth, reality, equity has no space in this era.
 

taxiya

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I don't think people here care about what both side EXACTLY said and discussed in the actual conference. I think people here care about only the media aspect of the conference, which is an important new dimension of the modern world.

Just like Ghost of Kiev, Mig transfer deals, S-300 transfer deals. All of these does NOT necessarily need to be true in reality. But the ripple effect these incurs as a result of media cover of these, are an important aspect of Media/Information Warfare.
I think many people here care about China's true stance about the crisis. Otherwise we would not have had lots of argument. Examples are "China is going to stab Russia's back" and "China object Russia's action in Ukraine". All these noises are part of western information warfare. There are many new members joining the forum, we need to present China's position to them, otherwise such misinformation campaign will win and spread.

It is a fight that we must take up regardless how ridiculously started. Therefor, the intended audience of my post is not regular members who follow the event and making honest analysis, but 1 new members who are not aware and 2 the deliberate lairs.
 

Maikeru

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Read what I wrote more carefully. I didn't say it was the same tank. I said one can't tell if it's Ukrainian or Russian in origin from those p

Read what I wrote more carefully. I didn't say it was the same tank. I said one can't tell if it's Ukrainian or Russian in origin from those photos.
How can you tell that it isn't Russian? Presumably Oryx is going by the source of the image, and/or on the basis of other vehicles lost nearby in the same incident. Anyway the challenge was that Oryx was posting multiple images of the same vehicle and claiming they were different. There is no evidence of this whatsoever.
 

MortyandRick

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How can you tell that it isn't Russian? Presumably Oryx is going by the source of the image, and/or on the basis of other vehicles lost nearby in the same incident. Anyway the challenge was that Oryx was posting multiple images of the same vehicle and claiming they were different. There is no evidence of this whatsoever.
Ummm yeah so how can you tell they are not Ukrainian? My challenge is
oryx is biased towards ukraine. Don't move the goal post. They can over count Russian casualties and under count Ukrainian ones. You basically destroyed your own defense.

Presumably oryx is going to the source? So you're making assumptions now? Giving him the benefit of the doubt?

Oryx never showed how he decided which are Ukraine and which are Russian. He just took the post at face value. So my challenge stands, oryx is not reliable.
 
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