Ukrainian War Developments

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Maikeru

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That really happened around Kharkiv?
Not seen any evidence whatsoever for this. But we must take this unsubstantiated claim of a Russian win as absolute Gospel, whilst ignoring the photographic evidence of Russian losses that Oryx provides.
 

sheogorath

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A lot of posters on this board also believed it. In fact they repeated these western media propaganda pretty regularly. I never trusted oryx because even when you look at the images, it seems they took lots of liberty with assumed Russian losses.

At this point, a lot of his pictures seem to be the same tanks already counted previously but from different angles and time of day.
 

Maikeru

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Guardian update. Not sure how US UK and Turkey are supposed to guarantee security of Ukraine without at least some presence there. Anyway this plan would succeed in ending the immediate conflict and giving Ukraine time to properly tool up with western kit so as to give Russia an even bigger thrashing if they try anything again. Sanctions should stay until Putin is handed over to the Hague, the sequestered Russian reserves should be used to compensate Ukraine for the damage caused.


Ukraine and Russia have drawn up a tentative peace plan including a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces, the
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citing three sources involved in the talks.


The proposed deal would involve
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renouncing its ambitions to join Nato and promising not to host foreign military bases or weaponry in exchange for protection from allies such as the US, UK and Turkey, the people said.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukrainian president
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, told the FT that any deal would involve “the troops of the Russian Federation in any case leaving the territory of Ukraine” captured since the invasion began on 24 February – namely southern regions along the Azov and Black Seas, as well as territory to the east and north of Kyiv.

Ukrainian and Russian negotiators discussed the tentative 15-point plan in full for the first time on Monday, the paper reports.
 

Weaasel

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They've learnt their lesson and there hasn't been a major counter attack in days. They seem to be holding position during the day and moving back at night.

Last night a big convoy got taken out leaving Kharkov. They had turned off all vehicle lights thinking that would save them. Apparently WW2 tactics are still a viable strategy against modern air forces.
This war is bringing out a new methodologies and doctrines of warfare. Armoured vehicles have now have much vulnerability to anti-armour weaponry and drones and low flying aircraft have much vulnerability to shoulder fired anti aircraft weaponry. Aerial dominance, even against an enemy that lacks any air power, can no longer be so great because of shoulder fired AA are significantly more effective than before.

Infantry will now play a significantly more dominant role than before in warfare. Armour will almost certainly be upgraded to become much stronger, but that will come at a cost of speed of speed. However, their fire power can be maintained or even improved, and armour will need to be defended by infantry much more vigilantly than before. Anti-drone warfare will also be of critical importance too...

This war is also reminding people city of the reality of urban warfare that battles such as those of Fallujah and Grozny proved which is that is defended by a decently equipped and at least fairly competent defensive force that is determined to fight, even if greatly outnumbered and surrounded by a force with much greater manpower, cannot be easily taken, and to take it much destruction will happen and if civilians are present in it, there will be much unfortunate collateral losses. This is the plain reality of urban warfare...
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Looks like a T-72B Mod. 1989
He corrected it on his Twitter page. Aside from that, I looked at his page once more and noticed that he never kept track of the Donbas militia’s losses (though tbf, it is hard to distinguish between them and the Russians when it comes to vehicles). In short, while it seems that Russia may have lost a lot of their vehicles, it is highly possible a good chunk of it is from the militia (which is a mix of volunteers and conscripts).
 
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