Ukrainian War Developments

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ArmchairAnalyst

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LawLeadsToPeace said:
I wonder how they’ll integrate the foreign and merc fighters. They aren’t trained to fight within Russia’s combined arms and maneuver warfare oriented doctrine. So I don’t see them being part of any of the BTG’s. I guess they’ll just be used for sieges in cities? That’s the only situation I can see them fighting in.
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Yeah, basically expendable cannon fodder just like the Ukrainian foreign fighters I guess.
 
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The Western MSM narrative of how poorly Russia is performing in Ukraine is very dangerous because it gives the public a false narrative of what is actually happening in Russia, who is winning, and Russia's actual military capabilities.

IMO it's not surprising that public polls in the U.S. show people calling for an intervention because these people are made the believe Russia is somehow a pushover and a no fly zone can be easily implemented like if Ukraine was Libya. Same with the so called "volunteers" and "foreign legion", going to Russia thinking they are going to be gunning down Russian troops but only to be met with artillery and missile strikes.

It seems for now though any idea of a NATO led intervention is totally off the table.
 
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Russia sends message to foreign mercenaries in Ukraine​


The military says it knows the location of all foreign fighters in Ukraine and vows to continue targeting them

Western governments encouraging their citizens to enlist in Ukraine will be responsible for their death, the Russian Ministry of Defense said Monday, vowing to continue the strikes such as the one that destroyed the Yavorov base and show no mercy to mercenaries.

“All locations of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine are known to us,” Russian military spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement on Monday. “I want to warn you again – there will be no mercy for the mercenaries, no matter where they are on the territory of Ukraine.”

Konashenkov said a number of Western governments have encouraged their citizens to fight against Russian troops as mercenaries, adding that “all further responsibility for the death of this category of foreign citizens in Ukraine rests solely with the leadership of these countries.”

“Targeted strikes will continue,” Konashenkov said, specifically referring to Sunday’s cruise missile attack on the military bases in Yavorov and nearby Starichi in western Ukraine.

According to Moscow, the missile salvo destroyed the facilities used by the “International Legion of Ukraine” and killed “up to 180 foreign fighters.”

Kiev officials said that 35 people were killed and 130 injured in the attack on the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security, the official name of the military base near Yavorov. It had been used for years by NATO personnel to train Ukrainian troops.
While Ukrainian authorities insist that no foreign fighters were killed in the strike, several
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have reported that three former UK special forces operatives died at Yavorov, and “many more killed within the site than has been claimed.” This has not been officially confirmed by London.

Meanwhile, Washington insisted no “US troops, contractors or civilian government workers” were present at Yavorov.
Moscow sent troops into Ukraine last month, citing seven years of failure by Kiev to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements and make peace with the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Lugansk. Russia had recognized the two Donbass republics as independent states just days earlier. Kiev has accused Moscow of an unprovoked attack.
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The foreigners themselves are testifying about the deaths of their foreign comrades at the base.
 
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muddie said:
The Western MSM narrative of how poorly Russia is performing in Ukraine is very dangerous because it gives the public a false narrative of what is actually happening in Russia, who is winning, and Russia's actual military capabilities.

IMO it's not surprising that public polls in the U.S. show people calling for an intervention because these people are made the believe Russia is somehow a pushover and a no fly zone can be easily implemented like if Ukraine was Libya. Same with the so called "volunteers" and "foreign legion", going to Russia thinking they are going to be gunning down Russian troops but only to be met with artillery and missile strikes.

It seems for now though any idea of a NATO led intervention is totally off the table.
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That destruction of the foreign righter's base and the fleeing of the survivors has given them much time for pause and reflection...
 
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