Ukrainian War Developments
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But it selling, price of oil soared high, US banking big money, Russia too. Nato countries giving big weapons loan, strategist salivating to see a real tanks battle in this age of combat. Everyones happy ! ehummm beside Ukraine...
Let's tone down the memes. While funny on reddit, I don't think they belong here. I've seen discussion groups in many places degrade into nonsense once meming becomes the norm.
The report of the 16th was clearly wrong. Or will be in 5 hours or so barring any surprises.
Let's see if the sat pictures show the pullback the Russians claim is happening or the buildup that Ukraine + West is stating.
The report of the 16th was clearly wrong. Or will be in 5 hours or so barring any surprises.
Let's see if the sat pictures show the pullback the Russians claim is happening or the buildup that Ukraine + West is stating.
When’s ‘our upcoming invasions, I’d like to plan my vacation’: Diplomat mocks US-UK media
According to the Politico newspaper, US President Joe Biden claimed that Russia could allegedly attack Ukraine on February 16
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova
© Russian Foreign Ministry/TASS
MOSCOW, February 16. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has jokingly asked American and British media outlets to release a schedule of Russia’s "upcoming invasions" of Ukraine for the current year.
"I’d like to request US and British disinformation: Bloomberg, The New York Times and The Sun media outlets to publish the schedule for our upcoming invasions for the year. I’d like to plan my vacation," the Russian diplomat said on her Telegram channel Wednesday.
The West and Kiev have recently been echoing allegations about Russia’s potential invasion of Ukraine recently. Western media outlets keep enthusiastically announcing "the date of invasion," which has been repeatedly postponed. In particular, according to the Politico newspaper, US President Joe Biden claimed that Russia could allegedly attack Ukraine on February 16. This steady disinformation blitz by the Western media has already resulted in a sharp deterioration of Kiev’s economic situation, with investments and businesses fleeing Ukraine, while the energy prices in Europe are growing. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov castigated these statements as an "empty and groundless" escalation of tensions, emphasizing that Russia posed no threat to anyone.
The US signals a minor change of plans:
Full text below, but first a quick dossier on Ben Hodges:
Ben Hodges was the head of Allied Land Command November 2012-October 2014 and head of US Army Europe November 2014 - December 2017. From 2018 he chairs Pershing Chair in Strategic Studies at Center for European Policy Analysis, an intelligence front established in Warsaw, Poland in 2005 for the purpose of steering the policy of eastern European countries.
This is an interesting indication of the deep state workings - from Wikipedia:
He endorsed Joe Biden in the 2020 U.S. presidential election in an op-ed with Ambassador and .
Here's something that Wikipedia won't tell you:
Ben Hodges was commander of US Army Europe during a destructive political purge that took place in Polish military in 2016-17. The pure ensured that only loyal personnel and US intelligence assets were promoted to important positions and took control over the procurement process. Since then Poland has drastically reduced relationships with European allies in particularly Germany and France and increased its dependency on the US to an extreme rate. Currently American weapons are bought without competitive tenders at exorbitant prices and funding for domestic R&D is almost nonexistent.
Most importantly in 2014 the US Army Europe began disseminating a set of ideas on the transformation of eastern European militaries. Those ideas came as an organized campaign of PR and backroom influence from several organizations including CSBA among others. One of the key points was the necessity for establishing in the region an ecosystem that would support US expeditionary warfare at minimal expenditures meaning, utilizing local militaries as US assets. Key acquisitions were Patriot with IBCS, F-35 and HIMARS. Between 2014 and 2020 those three positions were acquired without competitive tender by Polish military and in the case of Patriot, they even led to a change of cabinet, when some of the ministers refused to back a purchase without the necessary process, offset deals etc.
Recent report on military readiness indicates that readiness in Polish military after six years of governance by US intelligence assets "Law and Justice" (an anti-EU, anti-democratic government) is lower than it was in 2014. In 2014 7 out of 13 brigades had 80% staffing. Currently only two.
And all of that is happening while the US intelligence keeps oversight over affairs in Poland. This is not an accident. This is part of the plan to destabilize European security while retaining political control in key areas as tools for US foreign policy.
Ben Hodges is a mouthpiece of US state security and intelligence establishment so his words are not his personal opinions. They are a message.
Full text from the thread:
THREAD on Ukraine: It feels like we're watching a slow-motion train wreck happening before our eyes... and make no mistake, Putin is driving that train, unless we can get the initiative. 1/
The currently deployed Russian land and naval forces are like a boa constrictor around Ukraine, choking its economy and further threatening its sovereignty. 2/
The Kremlin's aim is to make Ukraine a failed state, which they believe they can achieve by applying constant pressure and isolating UKR from the Black Sea, without actually launching a new offensive. 3/
But with the assets now in place, Putin has multiple options, including a new invasion... and there are no real signs of de-escalation from the Kremlin apart from vague commitments about minor troop withdrawals. 4/
A single, massive assault isn't necessary to achieve the Kremlin's strategic aims. More likely is a continuation/expansion of the current conflict, particularly along the coasts near Odesa and the Sea of Azov, the same pattern Russia has employed since 2008 in Georgia. 5/
Belarus is also a key part of Russia's scheme. President Lukashenko will be gone and replaced this summer. This is the next step in completing the Union State, which also has long-term implications for the very vulnerable Suwałki Corridor. 6/
The Biden administration deserves credit for bringing Allies together... all of whom continue to reject the Kremlin's demands. But we in the West still can't fathom a large-scale war in Europe in the 21st century. How can we regain the initiative? 7/
We should be prepared to escalate horizontally... including giving Ukraine the capability to strike the Kerch Bridge and/or illegal base at Sevastopol, challenge Russia in Black Sea international waters and airspace, and being prepared to quarantine Russia's base at Tartus. 8/
We should be doing everything possible to help Ukraine's economy and defense... something on the scale of the Berlin Airlift but capabilities including IAMD, cyber protection, counter-fire radar, anti-tank, Stinger and Avenger, anti-ship. 9/
Our single greatest piece of leverage is Turkey’s ability to close the Straits to Russian ships under the Montreux Convention. We need a significant diplomatic effort with Ankara beginning with assurances that Turkey won't be left alone if the Kremlin retaliates. 10/
We need to make sure Russia doesn't call our bluff on sanctions... we could pre-emptively freeze select Russian assets and consider a “Ukrainian War Tax” to insulate our own economies and show our commitment. 11/
We should build off-ramps for Putin while staying cleareyed about the nature of diplomacy with the Kremlin, including reestablishing mutual special military observer missions and doubling down on exercise transparency. 12/
A public statement by Allies guaranteeing Russia's internationally recognized borders sounds ludicrous but could help counter the false narrative that Russia is threatened by NATO. 13/
This is about more than Ukraine, but also our collective security and stability. A failure of deterrence in the Black Sea will also send a signal of weakness to China... and we'll need Allies to deter great power war. 14/
Bold and underline text is mine. I chose it as the key elements of the message that needs to be read as doublespeak and which are in my view an indication of further American plans. It's not what they predict but what they want to achieve - "predictive programming" as it is sometimes called.
The United States will continue to make a concerted effort to instigate an armed conflict in Europe.
Full text below, but first a quick dossier on Ben Hodges:
Ben Hodges was the head of Allied Land Command November 2012-October 2014 and head of US Army Europe November 2014 - December 2017. From 2018 he chairs Pershing Chair in Strategic Studies at Center for European Policy Analysis, an intelligence front established in Warsaw, Poland in 2005 for the purpose of steering the policy of eastern European countries.
This is an interesting indication of the deep state workings - from Wikipedia:
He endorsed Joe Biden in the 2020 U.S. presidential election in an op-ed with Ambassador and .
Here's something that Wikipedia won't tell you:
Ben Hodges was commander of US Army Europe during a destructive political purge that took place in Polish military in 2016-17. The pure ensured that only loyal personnel and US intelligence assets were promoted to important positions and took control over the procurement process. Since then Poland has drastically reduced relationships with European allies in particularly Germany and France and increased its dependency on the US to an extreme rate. Currently American weapons are bought without competitive tenders at exorbitant prices and funding for domestic R&D is almost nonexistent.
Most importantly in 2014 the US Army Europe began disseminating a set of ideas on the transformation of eastern European militaries. Those ideas came as an organized campaign of PR and backroom influence from several organizations including CSBA among others. One of the key points was the necessity for establishing in the region an ecosystem that would support US expeditionary warfare at minimal expenditures meaning, utilizing local militaries as US assets. Key acquisitions were Patriot with IBCS, F-35 and HIMARS. Between 2014 and 2020 those three positions were acquired without competitive tender by Polish military and in the case of Patriot, they even led to a change of cabinet, when some of the ministers refused to back a purchase without the necessary process, offset deals etc.
Recent report on military readiness indicates that readiness in Polish military after six years of governance by US intelligence assets "Law and Justice" (an anti-EU, anti-democratic government) is lower than it was in 2014. In 2014 7 out of 13 brigades had 80% staffing. Currently only two.
And all of that is happening while the US intelligence keeps oversight over affairs in Poland. This is not an accident. This is part of the plan to destabilize European security while retaining political control in key areas as tools for US foreign policy.
Ben Hodges is a mouthpiece of US state security and intelligence establishment so his words are not his personal opinions. They are a message.
Full text from the thread:
THREAD on Ukraine: It feels like we're watching a slow-motion train wreck happening before our eyes... and make no mistake, Putin is driving that train, unless we can get the initiative. 1/
The currently deployed Russian land and naval forces are like a boa constrictor around Ukraine, choking its economy and further threatening its sovereignty. 2/
The Kremlin's aim is to make Ukraine a failed state, which they believe they can achieve by applying constant pressure and isolating UKR from the Black Sea, without actually launching a new offensive. 3/
But with the assets now in place, Putin has multiple options, including a new invasion... and there are no real signs of de-escalation from the Kremlin apart from vague commitments about minor troop withdrawals. 4/
A single, massive assault isn't necessary to achieve the Kremlin's strategic aims. More likely is a continuation/expansion of the current conflict, particularly along the coasts near Odesa and the Sea of Azov, the same pattern Russia has employed since 2008 in Georgia. 5/
Belarus is also a key part of Russia's scheme. President Lukashenko will be gone and replaced this summer. This is the next step in completing the Union State, which also has long-term implications for the very vulnerable Suwałki Corridor. 6/
The Biden administration deserves credit for bringing Allies together... all of whom continue to reject the Kremlin's demands. But we in the West still can't fathom a large-scale war in Europe in the 21st century. How can we regain the initiative? 7/
We should be prepared to escalate horizontally... including giving Ukraine the capability to strike the Kerch Bridge and/or illegal base at Sevastopol, challenge Russia in Black Sea international waters and airspace, and being prepared to quarantine Russia's base at Tartus. 8/
We should be doing everything possible to help Ukraine's economy and defense... something on the scale of the Berlin Airlift but capabilities including IAMD, cyber protection, counter-fire radar, anti-tank, Stinger and Avenger, anti-ship. 9/
Our single greatest piece of leverage is Turkey’s ability to close the Straits to Russian ships under the Montreux Convention. We need a significant diplomatic effort with Ankara beginning with assurances that Turkey won't be left alone if the Kremlin retaliates. 10/
We need to make sure Russia doesn't call our bluff on sanctions... we could pre-emptively freeze select Russian assets and consider a “Ukrainian War Tax” to insulate our own economies and show our commitment. 11/
We should build off-ramps for Putin while staying cleareyed about the nature of diplomacy with the Kremlin, including reestablishing mutual special military observer missions and doubling down on exercise transparency. 12/
A public statement by Allies guaranteeing Russia's internationally recognized borders sounds ludicrous but could help counter the false narrative that Russia is threatened by NATO. 13/
This is about more than Ukraine, but also our collective security and stability. A failure of deterrence in the Black Sea will also send a signal of weakness to China... and we'll need Allies to deter great power war. 14/
Bold and underline text is mine. I chose it as the key elements of the message that needs to be read as doublespeak and which are in my view an indication of further American plans. It's not what they predict but what they want to achieve - "predictive programming" as it is sometimes called.
The United States will continue to make a concerted effort to instigate an armed conflict in Europe.
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And how high should those numbers be in a healthy organisation? It seems like you're smart so you should know that for sure.
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