Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Jura The idiot
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it's controversial, emotional, many people on both sides wish this had never happened:
[video=youtube;kgTbBZs2Mqc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kgTbBZs2Mqc[/video]
local commanders of the opposing forces at Donetsk Airport met, talked normally -- considering the circumstances, of course (since 01:22 on the vid; I'll only say I saw it yesterday, but I was aware of claims this video was a fake, so I waited for the reaction of the hard-core servers I check ... and now I post)
[video=youtube;kgTbBZs2Mqc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kgTbBZs2Mqc[/video]
local commanders of the opposing forces at Donetsk Airport met, talked normally -- considering the circumstances, of course (since 01:22 on the vid; I'll only say I saw it yesterday, but I was aware of claims this video was a fake, so I waited for the reaction of the hard-core servers I check ... and now I post)
On why Ukraine closed 3 airports, Cassad provides the claim the they are receiving massive US airlift of military equipment as per Senate Bill to arm Ukraine with lethal and non lethal supplies.
On the topic of the information received about zakratii airports in Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and Kiev. Airports in Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia was closed for an indefinite period at the request of the military. This was stated by the head of the State Aviation Administration of Ukraine Denis Antoniuk. On the eve of Antoniuk said that State Aviation Service of reasons Safety covers flights from all directions in Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia, but the exact reasons he did not name. "All I can say is that the airports are closed indefinitely. The military asked, "- quoted him as saying by RIA Novosti. "This force majeure, so buses delivered in the direction of no repetition. We offer only two options: the first - a refund for the ticket, the second - the transfer of the flight to another date convenient for the people ", - said the press service of the Ukrainian UIA. - Zinc close them at the reception of military transport aircraft the US and NATO. One of the readers with links to Zaporozhye has already confirmed. His friend at work is associated with the Zaporozhye airport. Next quote: Who Airport perform an urgent order for the installation of defensive towers around the perimeter of the airport. Said that the urgent need to finish the work, because order is urgent. Began work in late November. It is now complete. Said yesterday that flights from Zaporozhye (a / k Motor Sich) is stopped on the 13th. And it is against the wishes of Motor Sich to fly in 16.12 Moscow time every day, instead of 3 p. a week. When asked why stop, one of the airport workers reported that the airport is prepared for receiving the military aircraft with equipment, including and in Kharkov and the Dnieper. Equipment expected from the United States. In a similar situation Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov of evidence have not seen yet. In general, apparently US does not intend to wait until the Senate act on military aid to Ukraine will pass through Congress and boost troops rearmament junta. It must be assumed that informally podedut and new military advisors / experts. The Russian Foreign Ministry passed an act called the confrontational and threatened radical response. Let's see what this muscle-flexing on both sides lead. UPD: Already there is evidence that the unloaded 4 "Hercules" shtatovskih + meeting Lavrov and Kerry, which was expected on December 15, immediately transferred to 14.
On the topic of the information received about zakratii airports in Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and Kiev. Airports in Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia was closed for an indefinite period at the request of the military. This was stated by the head of the State Aviation Administration of Ukraine Denis Antoniuk. On the eve of Antoniuk said that State Aviation Service of reasons Safety covers flights from all directions in Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia, but the exact reasons he did not name. "All I can say is that the airports are closed indefinitely. The military asked, "- quoted him as saying by RIA Novosti. "This force majeure, so buses delivered in the direction of no repetition. We offer only two options: the first - a refund for the ticket, the second - the transfer of the flight to another date convenient for the people ", - said the press service of the Ukrainian UIA. - Zinc close them at the reception of military transport aircraft the US and NATO. One of the readers with links to Zaporozhye has already confirmed. His friend at work is associated with the Zaporozhye airport. Next quote: Who Airport perform an urgent order for the installation of defensive towers around the perimeter of the airport. Said that the urgent need to finish the work, because order is urgent. Began work in late November. It is now complete. Said yesterday that flights from Zaporozhye (a / k Motor Sich) is stopped on the 13th. And it is against the wishes of Motor Sich to fly in 16.12 Moscow time every day, instead of 3 p. a week. When asked why stop, one of the airport workers reported that the airport is prepared for receiving the military aircraft with equipment, including and in Kharkov and the Dnieper. Equipment expected from the United States. In a similar situation Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov of evidence have not seen yet. In general, apparently US does not intend to wait until the Senate act on military aid to Ukraine will pass through Congress and boost troops rearmament junta. It must be assumed that informally podedut and new military advisors / experts. The Russian Foreign Ministry passed an act called the confrontational and threatened radical response. Let's see what this muscle-flexing on both sides lead. UPD: Already there is evidence that the unloaded 4 "Hercules" shtatovskih + meeting Lavrov and Kerry, which was expected on December 15, immediately transferred to 14.
The Ukraininian air force was badly maintained and trained and its available helicopters and Frogfoot attack aircraft were soon shot down. Its MiG-29's were even more vulnarable when used for ground attack. On June 6 an An-30 aircraft was shot down over Slovyansk. On June 14 an Il-76 was shot down while approaching the airport of Lugansk. All these aircraft were at low altitude and all were shot down by small anti-aircraft missiles or perhaps by 23 mm anti-aircraft guns.
On July 14 an An-26 were shot down from 6 or 7 km altitude while it was trying to deliver supplies to Ukrainian forces in a cauldron near the border with Russia by a Buk missile from a launch vehicle that had been captured from the Ukrainian army. Three days later MH17 was shot down from an altitude of about 10 km near the position of that vehicle - it was seen in a village by two British journalists - but about 10 km further away from the place the aircraft was hit than the range of the missile. Three Buk batteries of the Ukraininan army were within range.
That was the last time we hear about aircraft being shot down over Ukraine. Yesterday I read that Kiev has closed its air space around Charkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporoshe and/or Mariupol ( different sources gave different names ) so perhaps something is happening.
Jura The idiot
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are you gonna fly against: ?
(should show this picture:
source: "Russia Solidifies its Military Position in Ukraine" -- blame them if it's incorrect
and there's one more thing: I've heard from a Russian that during some top-notch Su-34 (one machine) was used to set off Georgian, USSR-designed, SAMs (and quickly and safely return right after) ... (I don't mean the source which Su-34 wiki article quotes: ) ... my point is now it could work the other way, some high-tech Russian SAM shooting at USSR-designed planes ... but I expect some people here to tell us there aren't any Russian SAMs in Donbass
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are you gonna fly against: ?
(should show this picture:
source: "Russia Solidifies its Military Position in Ukraine" -- blame them if it's incorrect
and there's one more thing: I've heard from a Russian that during some top-notch Su-34 (one machine) was used to set off Georgian, USSR-designed, SAMs (and quickly and safely return right after) ... (I don't mean the source which Su-34 wiki article quotes: ) ... my point is now it could work the other way, some high-tech Russian SAM shooting at USSR-designed planes ... but I expect some people here to tell us there aren't any Russian SAMs in Donbass
Its just the same old Jura - a graphic from the Ukrainian State Security Service a via a US Media Organisation and public opinion maker.
What exactly though is your definition of a "Russian Sam"? A Russian design? Made in Russia? Purchased form Russia?
Operated by Russians? (pretty meaningless term given that this could ethnically and linguistically apply to most Ukrainians fighting on either side) Operated by volunteers that are Citizens of the Russian Federation? or Frontline equipment of the Russian army, operated by serving Russian personnel, under Russian army command?
Jura The idiot
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How have you been, SampanViking?
your questions are addressed in the article I quoted -- I had to fill an email address to get it as Sample Article, though ...
Fine thank you, just totally taken up with work, which has kept me busy pretty much 18/7 for over the last two weeks.
I don't really want to register with Stratfor again to be honest, I did previously and they spammed me to death for nearly two years (as you are probably discovering already).
On top of that I could not even find the actual article (may have been blind) but It felt like a front page that had moved on a day or two.
If you have the article and can repost in full or relevant highlights, I would be grateful (even if the response is at Christmas).