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Brigadier
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It's a beautiful carrier.

But sad that they are going to have to wait so long to get fixed wing aircraft aboard her.

In the mean time, that big deck makes for a great soccer field I suppose.

At least they have now started landing and launching aircraft off of the Ford.
But they need to do more...and more...and more.

Soon the USMC will help out our UK cousins with some F-35Bs of our own. The sooner the UK gets any of their own or friendly F-35Bs operating off of the carrier the better.

Yep, let the Sailor's enjoy their boat while they can, soon enough, it will be the Air Wing driving this whole operation,,,, but for now,,, who can join me in a chorus of "Love Boat"! LOL

actually it's prolly a good thing they're buying the B model, with the USN give the beautiful C-Bird,,, get it C-Bird?? the cold shoulder, the Marines are on this like "Ugly, on an Ape!, Semper Fidelis!
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Yep, let the Sailor's enjoy their boat while they can, soon enough, it will be the Air Wing driving this whole operation,,,, but for now,,, who can join me in a chorus of "Love Boat"! LOL

actually it's prolly a good thing they're buying the B model, with the USN give the beautiful C-Bird,,, get it C-Bird?? the cold shoulder, the Marines are on this like "Ugly, on an Ape!, Semper Fidelis!
I predict that the US Navy will end up LOVING, absolutely loving the Charlie.

It will bring 5th gen stealth and super sensor fusion to the carriers, where every F35-C will be its own mini-AWACS and take those sensors capabilities right out to the front of the spear.

Watch and see...I feel about 110% sure of this.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Great to see these babes together. Wish they could have sailed the QE over to the US West Coast, or the Ford to the Atlantic to have made a PR shot of those two together.

But these will do...yes sir, these will do just fine:

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Ministry of Defence Facing Tough Financial Choices
29 June 2017
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and the author doesn't even talk the RN, I mean directly:
The British military is facing a serious financial challenge, with an estimated £20 billion black hole to plug, and the inconclusive 8 June general election providing no way forward.
The ‘black hole’ in the Ministry of Defence’s (MoD) finances might, according to
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, be as large as £20 billion (or around 5% of projected spending commitments) over the next ten years.

Meeting this challenge will require either a large uplift in cash from the Treasury or a significant reshaping of government aspirations.

If the latter route is chosen, then the MoD would need to look at deleting capabilities from the military, much like in 2010 when the maritime patrol aircraft programme was
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, along with measures to reduce the size of the British Army, as well as other economy savings.

For example, previously and so-called ‘ring-fenced’ projects, such as the
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, a
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between the MoD and GCHQ, might now need to be raided for cash, and capabilities deleted or delayed. In this, and other capabilities, the temptation will be to take from areas that are classified and beyond the public gaze.

Yet such measures, even if radical in extent, will not be enough to deliver a long-term balanced budget; that will require more far-reaching decisions – something a full defence review might still deliver if one is announced. Several areas are worthy of greater consideration.

The UK has retained two independent formations for the purpose of theatre entry – that is, breaking into a conflict zone: by sea with
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and the Royal Navy’s amphibious capability; and by land with
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.

Given the overall size of the Armed Forces now, and the assumptions of major operations taking place solely as part of an alliance or a coalition, is it time to examine amalgamating these capabilities into a single Spearhead Brigade with this role?

Such a formation would transfer the Marines into the Army and allow the navy the flexibility to man one (and perhaps even both) aircraft carriers. The navy’s expensive amphibious capital ships could also be replaced with cheaper designs, following the example of the US Marine Corps and US Special Forces Command.

This would probably mean the purchase aircraft with greater airlift capabilities, such as a fleet of V-22 Osprey helicopters.

Along with such a move, decisions about the size of the UK
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might be taken. Without the need to support two separate theatre entry formations, the new Lightning II force could be shrunk to become the dedicated aviation support to the new Spearhead force, manned by a Fleet Air Arm and supported by RAF infrastructure.

Uplifting Typhoon numbers could provide the RAF with sufficient mitigation (at a lower cost) to focus on delivering current operations while transitioning to an unmanned combat fleet over the next 30 years.

Such a mix would work well in demonstrating the UK’s role as a key US ally while building Britain’s industrial base in this area, as well as ensuring continued partnerships across Europe in aerospace.

The US might also be on the verge of taking such an approach: the US Marines will undoubtedly continue to transition to the F-35B, but it is possible that the carrier version of the Joint Strike Fighter, the F-35C, will never make it on to US Navy carriers.

The problems they have experienced with the F-35C might require a potential move from updated F-18s to a purely unmanned capability over the next generation.

The RAF could play a leading role by adopting such a position now: certainly, the Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Hillier, is a visionary who could potentially deliver this position.

Such long-term changes will take time to bed in, but there remains a further choice facing the UK defence community, given the resource constraints it faces.

Broadly speaking, the Armed Forces are made up of two forces: a high-readiness group conducting operations now, or preparing to deploy in the near future; and a lower-readiness group that is preparing for war only at extended notice.

The former is a much smaller part of the Armed Forces and runs at a very high tempo, shifting between countless operations as political priorities change.

The latter makes up the greater part of the uniformed body, and is a vital part of the wider deterrence posture of the UK. It also provides resilience to civilian emergency services and costs much more in total than the high readiness force.

In purely financial terms, there is an argument for shifting the balance of priorities and investment between these two forces towards the former, accepting that in doing so, one could weaken the overall defence posture of the UK.

Such choices would reshape the UK’s defence capabilities over several generations, but the scale of such changes should not be underestimated. They would also go some way to balancing the MoD’s books.

However, such decisions should not be miscommunicated as improved capabilities for the forces. These choices cut capability and would harm the already fragile morale of uniformed and civilian staff. They would also undermine the Armed Forces’ ability to protect and defend the country in the long term.

But if balancing the defence budget is the primary requirement, these are the types of choices that must now be taken.
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
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Latest rotation of minehunters arrive in Gulf

The Royal Navy has maintained its commitment to mine clearance operations in Gulf as the latest rotation of vessels take up station supporting Op Kipion for the next three years.

HMS Blyth, a Sandown class minehunter and HMS Ledbury, a Hunt class mine countermeasures ship, have arrived in the Gulf to relieve HM ships Penzance and Chiddingfold which have been forward deployed to the region since June 2014.

The vessels of the latest rotation are expected to fulfil a similar three-year stint using a six-month rotational crew system to maintain maximum operational availability. They will be based out of Bahrain and will be some of the first units to call HMS Jufair home when it opens later this year. Along with their mine hunting duties, the vessels will engage in a full schedule of visits to regional partners and training exercise with multinational forces in the region.

The Royal Navy’s mine countermeasures task force in the Gulf makes up the 9th Mine Counter Measures Squadron and routinely consists of five vessels; a mothership comprising the battle staff and support elements, two deep water suited Sandown class vessels and two shallow water suited Hunt class vessels. The mothership role is currently being filled by RFA Cardigan Bay, the Bay class vessels having taken on the role formerly filled by the RFA Diligence, with HM ships Bangor, Blyth, Middleton and Ledbury now making up the squadron.

Penzance and Chiddingold will now start the long trip back to their homeports at Faslane and Portsmouth making visits to a number of allied nations along the way for training exercises and port calls. On their return, it is expected they will enter a period of maintenance before re-joining the fleet.

Globally the Royal Navy maintains an active commitment to mine countermeasures operations through the 9th Mine Countermeasures Squadron and the two NATO standing mine countermeasures groups (SNMCMG 1 & 2). Survey ship HMS Enterprise is currently deployed as the flagship of SNMCMG2 in the Mediterranean having just led its group into the Slovenian port of Koper.

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