Type 95 Assault Rifle II

RedMercury

Junior Member
Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Ammo is only better in terms of penetration. It isn't as accurate as 5.56 nor creates a big cavity as 5.45. The wound cavity it creates is comparatively small.
 

Norfolk

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

The Type 95 doesn't fire 3 round burst, just semi and full auto. I like the forward pistol grip idea, but the grip itself looks a bit small to be of any good. The ammo should be better than both 5.56 and 5.45, but I doubt its psychological (put down power) power is much better.

Bullpup's size initially was ideal for CQB, but the right corner pretty much killed the usefulness, and this is no exception.

Agreed Sumdud. I add the following: first, the shooter gets to inhale from time to time lots of hot, bitter, choking gas from the ejection port (which is conveniently situated right beneath his face); second, and you already point this out, so I'll just develop it a little further, is when the shooter has to switch to left-hand shooting (as on patrol, or while remaining behind cover such as trees, rocks, etc.) he gets a faceful of brass when he opens fire - thus, he's forced to expose himself to enemy view unnecessary under certain circumstances; and third, both points handicap its usefulness for CQB.

All things said, the Type 95 suffers the same handicaps as any other Bullpup design, and it may in fact be one of the better designs, along with the likes of the Steyr AUG.
 

aquilis182

New Member
Re: Type 95 assault rifle

The Type 95 doesn't fire 3 round burst, just semi and full auto. I like the forward pistol grip idea, but the grip itself looks a bit small to be of any good. The ammo should be better than both 5.56 and 5.45, but I doubt its psychological (put down power) power is much better.

Bullpup's size initially was ideal for CQB, but the right corner pretty much killed the usefulness, and this is no exception.
Upss my bad bro... I just copy & paste the part of advantages and disadvantages, I see other QBZ-95s pics and I dont see the 3 round burst in the fire selector either...
 

Rising China

Junior Member
HK MP7A1 Submachine Assault Weapon

Once again, it is said that HK MP7A1 is the best submachine gun in the world right now according to the Weaponology Show. The weapon is lightweight, reliable, and fires small bullets with very high velocity to pierce personal body armors and helmets. Does anyone have any comments or ideas about this new submachine gun?
 

Pointblank

Senior Member
Re: HK MP7A1 Submachine Assault Weapon

Once again, it is said that HK MP7A1 is the best submachine gun in the world right now according to the Weaponology Show. The weapon is lightweight, reliable, and fires small bullets with very high velocity to pierce personal body armors and helmets. Does anyone have any comments or ideas about this new submachine gun?

The fact that the new breed of PDW's will poke a hole the size of pencil in a lot of stuff including armour is nice. Of course it will also only poke a pencil sized hole in people. Very little production of cavities, temporary or permanent. Also, zero fragmentation once it penetrates the body, like the current 5.56mm and similar rounds. These weapons will ensure mission failure because of the lack of ability to make enemies go lights out, without a lucky or well aimed shot.
 

prona

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Re: HK MP7A1 Submachine Assault Weapon

The fact that the new breed of PDW's will poke a hole the size of pencil in a lot of stuff including armour is nice. Of course it will also only poke a pencil sized hole in people. Very little production of cavities, temporary or permanent. Also, zero fragmentation once it penetrates the body, like the current 5.56mm and similar rounds. These weapons will ensure mission failure because of the lack of ability to make enemies go lights out, without a lucky or well aimed shot.

The rounds are designed to yaw and tumble upon impact and produce quite a substantial cavity. Please see the following video for a test on ballistics gel with an mp7 round:

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It shows a round penetrating the CRISAT armor (titanium plate with 20 layers of kevlar).
 

Infra_Man99

Banned Idiot
Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Based on what I know and in regards to that video of the bullet:

1. That bullet seemed to lack any yaw and spin. The bullet went pretty straight past the armor and through to the back of the blob.

2. All that motion in the blob seemed to be shock, not the yaw and spin.

3. Medical studies show that human flesh does not get greatly injured by a bullet's shock. The human flesh is quite flexible.

4. The M14 and M16 is reported to poke a straight hole through unarmored people (i.e., Vietcong, terrorists and Iraqi independence fighters/insurgents/whatever), so an M14 or M16 needs one head shot or lots of body shots to QUICKLY put down a person. The M14 and M16 responds to different types of armor differently.

5. The AK-47 goes straight pass you, too, but it hits a person with MUCH greater force and it penetrates objects/walls MUCH better than the M14 and M16. Because of its iron sights, the AK-47 has worse accuracy than expected. With good iron sights, the AK-47 has good accuracy.

It's premature to say that the QBC95 is a bad design, whether the rifle or bullet. There is no such thing as the perfect gun or perfect bullet. A perfect gun/bullet is as rare as a perfect automobile (they all have their pros and cons): roadster vs. luxury sports sedan vs. high-mileage economy car vs. hatchback/station wagon vs. exotic car vs. truck vs SUV vs minivan. Which automobile is "the best?"

The compact bullpup rifles allow users to gracefully move around tight and crowded areas for stealth assaults or rapid assaults. In such RAPID, close-combat situations, it is rare to switch the rifle from your right shoulder to your left soldier. Most often, it is bad technique, because it ruins your aim and forces you to be overly cautious around corners. With proper stealth or teamwork, you do not need to switch your rifle from shoulder to shoulder as you go from corner to corner.

If the enemy is waiting for your team behind a corner, then the enemy is aware of your team's presence. In such fire fights, it is most often better to toss a grenade (don't worry about the "boom," because the enemy knows your team is here anyway), than to try to out-snipe the waiting enemy around the corner by switching your rifle between your shoulders depending on left/right corners.

Snipers in slow, long-range combat situations rarely switch the rifle between their right and left shoulders.

Conventional rifles should be easier to aim with as long as the environment is open (not tight and crowded). They also allow left-handers to use them on the left shoulder. They are better for bayonets, too.

In regards to bullpup rifles expelling dust and gas, a well-designed bullpup rifle should not have that problem.
 
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Pointblank

Senior Member
Re: HK MP7A1 Submachine Assault Weapon

The rounds are designed to yaw and tumble upon impact and produce quite a substantial cavity. Please see the following video for a test on ballistics gel with an mp7 round:

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It shows a round penetrating the CRISAT armor (titanium plate with 20 layers of kevlar).

The Dutch SF used PDW's when they were operating around Kabul - and shortly after some shootings went back to using 5.56mm carbine's or 9mm SMG's and pistols. They had zero confidence in the PDW to actually drop people compared to the 5.56mm or the 9mm.

Wound profiles of current rifle rounds:
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If I were a soldier and were deployed, I would prefer a modified M4 carbine, with a 6" or 8" barrel, and modified butt stock. That would do the job nicely.

Keep in mind these PDW's fire a rifle type round (5.7 is a .224 caliber bullet) but at drastically reduced velocities - the 5.56mm M855/SS109 round needs a impact velocity of ~2500fps (and greater) to impact human tissue and yaw and fragment. The longer Mk262 round requires ~2200 fps impact velocity (and due to the greater mass causes wounds of a greater degree) to do the same.

The RCMP and FBI have in addition to USSOC conducted testing with the with these PDW's. The reports aren't that favourable. Many papers have described the incredibly poor terminal performance of projectiles fired by the FN P90 and the HK MP7.
 

Infra_Man99

Banned Idiot
Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Hey Pointblank:

Yeah, I always read that Personal Defense Rifles were somewhat overrated: good for civilian usage, but not for military grade stuff.

Is that data with or without armor. If it is with armor, what type of armor? Every data I have seen shows that no armor, armor, and armor type affects a bullet's damage.

Anyhow, based on your provided charts, it seems that fat people get hurt more by bullets than skinny people. Of the bullets provided, only 3 bullets would deal more damage if your body is 20 cm thick or thinner than if your body is thicker than 20 cam, and all the other bullets do more damage if your body is more than 20 cam thick than if your body is 20 cm or less thick.

Maybe this is why there are many reports that the skinny Vietcong, terrorists, and Iraqi independent fighters can take unexpectedly many body shots by M14 and M16 assault rifles.

The more bloody bullets fragment upon penetration, but I believe this violates international war laws, and these bullets usually have a harder time penetrating through walls and other barriers.

Does anyone have data on the QBZ's bullet damage against unarmored bodies, damage against armored bodies (type of armor, too), and penetration ability through walls (wood, concrete, both wood and concrete, and steel) into bodies (unarmored and armored)?

I would love to see this data for ALL major military bullet types.
 
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RedMercury

Junior Member
Re: Type 95 assault rifle

I like how the 5.56's main method of damaging tissue is against Geneva conventions. Everyone should make fragmenting bullets! It's OK as long as it's FMJ!
 
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