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ManilaBoy45

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Type 560 Rans Aground

Embarrassment as Chinese Frigate Runs Aground

Date July 13, 2012 - 3:22PM
John Garnaut is The Age and Sydney Morning Herald's China correspondent

A Chinese warship has run aground while patrolling contested waters adjacent to the Philippines in the South China Sea.

The frigate pinned itself to a reef last night at Half Moon Shoal, on the south-eastern edge of the Spratly Islands, and remains "thoroughly stuck", according to Western diplomatic sources shortly after midday local time, or 2pm AEST.

Salvage operations could be diplomatically challenging, given the vessel appears to have run aground within 200 kilometres of the Philippines coast, which is squarely within what Manila claims to be its Exclusive Economic Zone.

The stricken People's Liberation Army Navy vessel, believed to be No. 560, a Jianghu-class frigate, has in the past been involved in aggressively discouraging Filipino fishing boats from the area.

Advertisement The accident could not have come at a more embarrassing moment for the Chinese leadership, who have been pressing territorial claims and flexing the country's muscle ahead of a leadership transition later this year.

Today's meeting of the Association of South-East Asian Nations in Cambodia ended in disarray, without a code of conduct for resolving conflicts in the South China Sea, following robust intervention from China.

Also this week, China yesterday dispatched one of its largest-ever fishing expeditions from Hainan Island to another disputed archipelago in the South China Sea.

Earlier in the week, PLA generals and top foreign policy advisers urged China to do more to press its claims.

Cui Liru, president of the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, a leading think tank that reports to the main intelligence department, said Beijing had previously focused too much on seeking common ground with its neighbours and putting disputes on the shelf.

"In the foreseeable future, say at least in five years, the Asia-Pacific region will still be showing every feature of a transitional period, which is characterised by a certain level of chaos," he said.

China's ministry of foreign affairs was not immediately available for comment.



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kickars

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Half Moon Shoal is less then 100 kms. (60 Miles) from the shorelines of Palawan island, if you don't call this a 'CREEPING' invasion then I don't know what else to call it ...

No, it's NOT 'creeping' at all. And since you are the one bringing up the word 'invasion' in this pure military related forum, let me tell you it's NOT an invasion either. Doesn't matter politically which side you are standing.

If you want to discuss this particular ship or the situation from military technical point of view, please do so. If you are here to talk about any kind of political implication of the situation, please go somewhere else to point your figure. Read the forum rules.

By the way, Gibraltar is less than... well, one millimetre from Spain. Guess what? It belongs to Britain. Please, stop all these point less argument of yours once for all!
 

Mysterre

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No, it's NOT 'creeping' at all. And since you are the one bringing up the word 'invasion' in this pure military related forum, let me tell you it's NOT an invasion either. Doesn't matter politically which side you are standing.
I smell incoming trolling/flamebaiting from someone with an axe to grind against the Chinese. :)
 

Jeff Head

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The stricken People's Liberation Army Navy vessel, believed to be No. 560, a Jianghu-class frigate, has in the past been involved in aggressively discouraging Filipino fishing boats from the area.
So, all politics aside, are we actually talking about the Jianghu V, Type 053H1G Frigtate 560, Dongguan? The article title says Type 560, but I think, based on the internal description, this is what we are talking about.

type053h1g_jianghu5_02large.jpg


I wonder how hard she is afowl of the reef? Hope she gets off the reef soon before real damage and potential injury occurs.
 

i.e.

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So, all politics aside, are we actually talking about the Jianghu V, Type 053H1G Frigtate 560, Dongguan? The article title says Type 560, but I think, based on the internal description, this is what we are talking about.

type053h1g_jianghu5_02large.jpg


I wonder how hard she is afowl of the reef? Hope she gets off the reef soon before real damage and potential injury occurs.

this is one of the patrol frigates that regularly partols that region. extra A/C and other sundary improvements. despite all the talks of chinese military buildup with 054A and all that this is still the work horse of the fleet logging tremendous hours on its engines.
 

cn_habs

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Half Moon Shoal is less then 100 kms. (60 Miles) from the shorelines of Palawan island, if you don't call this a 'CREEPING' invasion then I don't know what else to call it ...

Is Falklands Argentinian?

Once again, you have shown blatant ignorance. :p
 

Jeff Head

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this is one of the patrol frigates that regularly partols that region. extra A/C and other sundary improvements. despite all the talks of chinese military buildup with 054A and all that this is still the work horse of the fleet logging tremendous hours on its engines.
Yes they are...and understandably so. They are perfectly adequate for the threat environment.

Right now a Type 054A would be overkill for such a mission. They will be reserved for high threat or high visibility missions...and for escorting captal vessels like the LPDs and Carrier.
 

plawolf

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Plus this grounding provides an example of the shallowness of some of the waters in the area. If a Jianhu can run aground, it would be far easier for an 054A to do so. It would be interesting to know the reasons and circumstances surrounding the grounding. Was the area well charted as a navigation risk? Was there adverse weather conditions at the time? Was there a failure of key navigation equipment? Probably things we will never find out, but I think unless there are truly exceptional mitigating circumstances, the career of the luckless captain of that ship is surely over.

Plus can you just imagine the kind of rhetoric that will come out of Manilla(boy) if the PLAN ever deploy a vessel of the class of the 054A to regularly patrol the disputed area? I think one of the reasons the PLAN wants the 056 class is for patrolling these sorts of areas to replace the older ships without the kind of hysteria that could break out if the deployed something bigger. Plus the smaller 056 should be much more adapt at handling the shallow waters of the area and go where the larger 054A could not.
 

joshuatree

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No, it's NOT 'creeping' at all. And since you are the one bringing up the word 'invasion' in this pure military related forum, let me tell you it's NOT an invasion either. Doesn't matter politically which side you are standing.

If you want to discuss this particular ship or the situation from military technical point of view, please do so. If you are here to talk about any kind of political implication of the situation, please go somewhere else to point your figure. Read the forum rules.

By the way, Gibraltar is less than... well, one millimetre from Spain. Guess what? It belongs to Britain. Please, stop all these point less argument of yours once for all!

I've been rather patient and biting my tongue on the SCS thread being shut down but I don't get why this incident requires a separate thread? It should have been in the closed SCS thread but the ASEAN news thread would be the next most logical choice. I don't see a whole lot of technical discussion on 560. If you want to bring up the word "invasion", it would be a bunch of PI hawks with new usernames posting in the SCS thread forcing it to be closed to the rest of us who were politely discussing the topic and now don't have that avenue.

60 miles from Palawan puts the ship in international waters, not territorial waters. If you want to argue about being supposedly in PI's EEZ, according to even the US, "all nations may legitimately engage in military activities in foreign exclusive economic zones, without prior notice to, or consent of, the coastal State concerned." If you disagree, then what the USNS Impeccable did was illegal which is what China's viewpoint is. So you can't have your cake and eat it too.



this is one of the patrol frigates that regularly partols that region. extra A/C and other sundary improvements. despite all the talks of chinese military buildup with 054A and all that this is still the work horse of the fleet logging tremendous hours on its engines.

Yes they are...and understandably so. They are perfectly adequate for the threat environment.

Right now a Type 054A would be overkill for such a mission. They will be reserved for high threat or high visibility missions...and for escorting captal vessels like the LPDs and Carrier.

Grounding is a common issue here in the Spratlys. BRP Sierra Madre is grounded on Second Thomas Reef and BRP Benguet on Thitu Island. I don't ever see 054s patrolling these waters unless it's some sort of special military operation. It's too dangerous for ships of such displacement. That's why the 056s are being produced. The 560 is part of 6 econo ships built in the 1990s and their displacement is more in the 1500 ton range like the 056.
 
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