Type 081 LHD

szbd said:

I think you got it wrong. The semi submersible ships are very stable in nature, they are the most stable ships in the world. The two Chinese modern ones can be operated with very few people and even remotely controled. One Chinese semi submersible ship took a floating production storage and offloading oil ship from China to Brazil, how could it do that if it's not stable?

For the taiwan AShM problems, that's the same for LHA.

For the strong and non-slip deck, just build one. The payload (note, not displacement) of the modern Chinese semi submersible ship is 18,000 tons. They are designed to carry those crazy big and high stuff. The top weight is not a concern.

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1. No, the stability comes from the the constant trimming that the ship does in order to keep stable.

2. A LHA has a self-defence suite, plus it is built to military specifications. Any ship that would fight or support a fight in a hot zone (Mine Counter Measure vessels, AORs, amphibs, destroyers and frigates etc) must be made mil spec. I won't debate why, as this should not be even debated at all. It's negligence and murder to advocate anything less then mil spec for ships that will potentially be involved in combat.

3. Before whipping out the Jane's book and seeing that x aircraft can fly x distance, you have to understand real life. In real life, x airplane will most definitely 95% of the time not fly x distance, due to variations in load, conditions, etc.

Before whipping out the Jane's book and seeing that x aircraft can fly x distance, you have to understand real life. In real life, x airplane will most definitely 95% of the time not fly x distance, due to variations in load, conditions, etc.

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Excellent statement Pointblank. Just because the specs say X is the capablity..does not mean in the real world things will play out that way.

By the way you've made outstanding statements of facts. Outstanding.

While i absolutely agree with the said statements - one has to remain realistic. IF a figure, lets say 800 km, is given for a certain load, say 4 tons - that takes into consideration most of the final range figure, even though there may be dozens of other variables. With all the other possible variables going against the aircraft, headwind, air temp, reserve, high altitude for helos or low for aeroplanes (for whatever reason), all those things combined will influence the advertised range figure by 30-40%. Probably under 30%, but since i'm too lazy to actually do calculations, i offered 40% as well.

So, the question is not whether there's headwind or whats the air temp - question is do we have a reliable advertised figure for the given range, under a very specific payload conditions? IF the offered mi-17 range of 500 km is for a useful payload of 3 tons - then there's no problem. Frankly, i'd be grateful if someone pointed out an article that shows without a doubt if that range figure is given for an empty or full aircraft.

I believe the CV for the PRC is mainland china. in order for its military to perform the mission we all know it is preparing for is the building of large helo carriers. It needs to project quick over the horizon special forces/elite infantry insertion fast and in large numbers. Once the mission it is preparing for is over then baring the world still here it can build CV

I'd like to post this here - because the LHD / LHA (or a small amhibious carrier) in my opinion should be the next step - and it reads "first ground work for AC carrier construction"
(may be BS).

Sczepan said:

I'd like to post this here - because the LHD / LHA (or a small amhibious carrier) in my opinion should be the next step - and it reads "first ground work for AC carrier construction"
(may be BS).

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I don't doubt the PRCs ablity to build such a ship as an LHD/LHA/CV/CVH but I cannot really tell anything by that photo. Just looks like a square piece of steel to me.

The picture got four Houbeis in it, two of which appear to be unpainted yet.

bd popeye said:

I don't doubt the PRCs ablity to build such a ship as an LHD/LHA/CV/CVH but I cannot really tell anything by that photo. Just looks like a square piece of steel to me.

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bd popeye - I can't see more as you do, but I quotet the wroting and this seems to be interesting; HSH as you know is one of the interestings sources ...

Any news regarding the alleged PLA Navy LHD ? should be the next step startig from 2009 or 2010 ?

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Now in answer to your question. As you can see by the age of this thread there has been no new news on the Type 081 LHD for some time..sorry to say.