Type 076 LHD/LHA discussion

taxiya

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Does anyone know if we are looking at the top deck (weather deck) of the ship? It seems to me it is the top deck, and if it is there seems to be no room for EM cat due to the two big rectangular openings in the bow seciton.
 

kentchang

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Does anyone know if we are looking at the top deck (weather deck) of the ship? It seems to me it is the top deck, and if it is there seems to be no room for EM cat due to the two big rectangular openings in the bow seciton.
Cannot be top deck right? At least another layer to cover up the big hole. The opening is offset to the right but any island would only occupy a small footprint on the side. The smaller opening near the unattached end an elevator?
 

Blitzo

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why do you expect angle deck on a LHD/LHA?

If it's intended to do CATOBAR operation, the ability to recover aircraft on an angled deck to catch the wire would help to facilitate spotting of aircraft on the bow.

Which is to say, in theory there is no reason why LHD/LHAs cannot have an angled deck, but most LHD/LHA fixed wing operation is either VSTOL or they use much lighter UAVs in a manner which is not intended as part of the ship's fundamental design.
 

taxiya

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If it's intended to do CATOBAR operation, the ability to recover aircraft on an angled deck to catch the wire would help to facilitate spotting of aircraft on the bow.

Which is to say, in theory there is no reason why LHD/LHAs cannot have an angled deck, but most LHD/LHA fixed wing operation is either VSTOL or they use much lighter UAVs in a manner which is not intended as part of the ship's fundamental design.
The designation of 076 means that it is a LHD/LHA ship, anticipating it does some sort of CATOBAR operation with angled deck is too far a stretch (the usual one want everything to do everything), therefor my question.
 

Blitzo

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The designation of 076 means that it is a LHD/LHA ship, anticipating it does some sort of CATOBAR operation with angled deck is too far a stretch (the usual one want everything to do everything), therefor my question.

I disagree somewhat.

Meeting the threshold to be a LHD/LHA requires the ship to have a proper well deck for deployment of amphibious assets and a vehicle carrying capacity internally... As well as a helicopter/rotary wing complement and flight deck.
(Of course there are also exceptions, like initial hulls of America class)

The 076 will have all those, this meeting the definition of a LHD/LHA, but we also expect it to have EM catapults and also arresting gear, which is rare/unprecedented for a LHD/LHA but we are all still going along with that designation because we expect it to retain the well deck and amphibious capability.


I do not see having an angled deck as being "too far" for it to be called an LHD/LHA, considering all of the other expected traits it will retain.

Putting it another way, with or without an angled deck, 076 will be a CATOBAR ship anyway. The difference is only whether the arrested recovery of its fixed wing aircraft are done on an angled deck or not.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Does anyone know if we are looking at the top deck (weather deck) of the ship? It seems to me it is the top deck, and if it is there seems to be no room for EM cat due to the two big rectangular openings in the bow seciton.
Unlikely, given the narrow-looking bow section.

We're most likely looking at the hangar deck.
 
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sutton999

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BTW, based on the construction modules at the left side of 076, it gonna be a 100m single or dual catapult, which means J35 is on.
 

lcloo

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The need for angle deck may be a consideration for momentum of landing aircraft with heavy mass and also the tolerance of pilot's body on the impact from landing. Drones and small aircraft do not need long landing strip due to their light weight. Even the larger GJ-11 does not need long landing strip if arrestor wires are fitted.

However, if PLAN is planning forward to accommodate large UCAV similar to the size of J10 in future decades, there might be angle deck.

As for the (rumourd) type 076, most likely there won't be any angle deck, IMO.
 
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