Type 022 Missile Boat

what is the range of Chinese cruisers,i mean in what radius they operate

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Again, in sea state 5, a carrier would hardly notice it.
popeye would be able to provide his experience on this.

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true. It takes a very heavy sea state to really affect a CV.

On the JFK we went through a storm in the North Atlantic in October 1972. The sea state was so high that waves were banging off the hangar bay door and breaking over the bow. All our aircraft were secured in the Hangar deck and the rest were bunched close to the island.

bd popeye said:

true. It takes a very heavy sea state to really affect a CV.

On the JFK we went through a storm in the North Atlantic in October 1972. The sea state was so high that waves were banging off the hangar bay door and breaking over the bow. All our aircraft were secured in the Hangar deck and the rest were bunched close to the island.

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Off topic a bit here... what I am interested is... is there any damage to the ship and aircraft that are bundled near the island when the JFK went through that storm. And if there are damages, what are the extends of the damages?

bd popeye said:

true. It takes a very heavy sea state to really affect a CV.

On the JFK we went through a storm in the North Atlantic in October 1972. The sea state was so high that waves were banging off the hangar bay door and breaking over the bow. All our aircraft were secured in the Hangar deck and the rest were bunched close to the island.

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One can look at the example of Typhoon Cobra during World War II. The fleet, Task Force 38 composed of 7 aircraft carriers, six light carriers, eight battleships, 15 cruisers, and about 50 destroyers under the command of Admiral Halsey suffered various amounts of damage; the smaller destroyers bore the brunt of the storm, and 3 capsized as a result of the storm. Many other destroyers suffered significant damage or were severely swamped as a result of the storm. The cruisers and light carriers suffered minor damage (mostly aircraft coming loose and smashing into each other causing fires), while the larger fleet carriers and battleships managed to ride out the storm, except for a couple of lost aircraft on the carriers.

Bltizo said:

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves -- any 022 strike scenario wouldn't have the PLAN sending them into typhoons or anything. It's obvious they weren't designed to be capable of comfortably sitting through storms even with the swath design.
If they were sent for mid/long range (first, second island chain) patrols it'll probably be without a hurricane coming towards them.

(Out of interest, can anyone say what the sea states are like without a storm, say... 2000 kms from the chinese coast? I doubt 022s would be sent any further than that in even the most optimal scenarios)

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I'm of the impression the sea state doesn't change much after a certain far enough distance from the shore. On the other hand, tsunami waves, and probably waves in general, gather their destructive strength as they move nearer to shores. I wanted to ask the question of whether an aircraft carrier can withstand a tsunami but then realised the carrier is never near to shore during deployment.

Off topic a bit here... what I am interested is... is there any damage to the ship and aircraft that are bundled near the island when the JFK went through that storm. And if there are damages, what are the extends of the damages?

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There was no damage to the Big John..Now on the America and Hancock some years latter('75 & '81) there was some damage to the catwalks along the edge of the bow on the flight deck when encountering a major storm.

Quickie said:

I'm of the impression the sea state doesn't change much after a certain far enough distance from the shore. On the other hand, tsunami waves, and probably waves in general, gather their destructive strength as they move nearer to shores. I wanted to ask the question of whether an aircraft carrier can withstand a tsunami but then realised the carrier is never near to shore during deployment.

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A tsunami is a very high but much longer wave, so that a ship at sea may not even feel it (though they might see it coming).

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A tsunami is a very high but much longer wave, so that a ship at sea may not even feel it (though they might see it coming).

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Actually, a tsunami wave starts out flat but enormously wide when far out in the sea and becomes narrower and higher as it comes nearer to shore. I think that's how the group of Australians survived the recent Indonesian tsunami but didn't even realised it until they came to shore.

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