thanks for clarifying, but that's actually better, shouldn't they be able to get the engine from their old f-16 fleet if the US suddenly cut them off? so that they can find another alternative, either domestic or imported without stopping the program.
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Its engine is also at least 2, probably 3 years away from mass production.
Turkey is as bad as india in its military-techno bragging depending on imported sophisticated parts. If US and Europe stops supplying all the imported parts that go into the vaunted turkish drones/missiles and other weapons that they claim to be making, that will be the end of their so called independent production.
Iran is much better in military technology. They basically make everything on their own. Even if their weapons are inferior in technology, its still not dependent on imported parts.
@sequ Why sad reaction? that's a good strategy, maybe even make it easier for them to justify using Chinese engines, or use the F-16 engines until their own engine kick pace. The engine doesn't even need to have the best capabilities, it just need to be reliable for most of their use, and then they can incrementally improve it.
I'm a supporter for that project, hopefully it works out well, maybe their missile program give them better deterrence til the air program go into operations.
I'm a supporter for that project, hopefully it works out well, maybe their missile program give them better deterrence til the air program go into operations.
It's not ideal and runs into a whole set of other issues, such as more sanctions and technical issues.
Well, the US & the west as a whole will give you hell if you want to break their monopoly in the industry. And you can't wait until you've your own engine to start the program and they can't or doesn't have the will to go for chinese engines from the start because of the USA and NATO..etc.
So it's a good way to start the program and make the industry kick pace, can't think for another way yet.
You say there's technical issues, but the F110 is used in the F-16 C & D variants which is what turkiye have, some of them have little differences but it's the same engine, so it'll need work but they can do it with minimal problems. they can buy a lot of engines as if it's for the f-16 fleet, and if all things go down they can take some engines from some fighters while hidden that fact with some canny work.
Am I wrong in the fact they can use the engines in F-16s?
You’ve been a close follower of Turkish military development for quite some time?
If not, I personally wouldn’t speak the way you do...
The nationalization level across the entire military and industry has already reached 80%, and the only major obstacles left are the engines for manned jets and heavy-class utility and attack helicopters.
For example, the only non-domestic parts on the Kaan are the ejection seat, the engines, and some valves.
So, you are saying everything from AESA radar T/R modules, to sophisticated communication chips, to highly sophisticated IRST camera sensors are all made inside turkey? That is, they are on par with China and US on the most cutting edge of technology including chip manufacturing?
Yap, I don't believe that at all. Peek deep inside, and you will find Turkey is nothing but an assembler of western sophisticated components.