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Turkey to develop new medium combat aircraft . . .

The first Turkish local-design medium combat aircraft is set to make its maiden flight in 2022, said Temel Kotil, the CEO of Turkish Aerospace Industries.

The new combat aircraft, called the Hurjet, will design to provide advanced training of military pilots and enhanced mission performance to the air forces on the battlefield. On the basis of the new aircraft will be developed new advanced jet trainer and light fighter aircraft.

According to the Turkish media, the Hurjet will be equipped with modern flight control system designed to operate at speeds of Mach 1.2 at a maximum altitude of 45,000 feet.

The fighter variant of the Hurjet trainer jet will have nine weapon hardpoints and attachments for a 3-tonne payload. It can be deployed in ground support roles, including air-to-ground attack, tactical, close air support and interdiction with precision guided munitions.

Some source reported that the Hurjet aircraft possibly equipped with new Ukraine-made Ivchenko-Progress AI-222-25F turbofan engines. The engine was originally intended for the Russian Yakovlev Yak-130 and Chinese Hongdu L-15 trainer aircraft.

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TURKEY INVITES FIVE COMPANIES TO BID ON ALTAY MBT ENGINE DEVELOPMENT...


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Altay. Photo source: Otokar

Turkey’s government procurement agency the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) announced that five Turkish companies have responded to the SSM’s bid to develop an indigenous powertrain for the
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main battle tank (MBT).

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reports that BMC Automotive Industry and Trade Inc., TÜMOSAN Engine and Tractor Industry Inc., Istanbul Marine Shipbuilding Industry and Trade Inc., Figes Physics and Geometry Computer Simulation Trade Inc., and TUSAŞ Motor Sanayii A.Ş (TEI) responded to the SSM’s request-for-proposals (RFP).

This is the SSM’s second attempt at a national diesel engine program for the Altay MBT. Initially, the SSM had contracted TÜMOSAN to secure the requisite expertise and technical support to execute the program.

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TÜMOSAN had contracted the Austrian firm AVL List GmbH, but that contract
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because of the Austrian government’s push to place conditions on its exports to Turkey. TÜMOSAN was unable to secure an alternate partner, citing the reluctance of supplier governments to provide transfer-of-technology and, in some cases, also requiring export licenses on subcomponents available commercially-off-the-shelf.
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In March, the SSM had cancelled its contract with TÜMOSAN. Subsequently, the SSM decided that it would be prudent for any future engine development program to guarantee that all subcomponents are free of external intellectual property and regulatory restrictions. The renewed powerplant program will see the Turkish industry develop critical components, such as the hydrostatic steering unit, turbocharger, cooling package, alternator, transmission pumps and others.
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reports that the Altay MBT engine program could be worth over $1 billion U.S. (the given figure likely includes the cost of serial production as well). Currently, the Altay is powered by a 1,500 hp diesel engine from Germany’s MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH. The MTU engine is to equip the Turkish Army’s first 250 Altay MBTs. The SSM has yet to issue the serial production contract for these tanks, but Otokar (which designed the Altay), FNSS Savunma Sistemleri A.Ş. and BMC are competing for the contract.

The national tank engine program is integral to the SSM’s goal of exporting the Altay MBT. Slotted as the next-generation MBT of the Turkish Army, the SSM believes the Altay is a sophisticated and capable asset for high-value exports. The Altay has been pitched to Turkey’s key markets, such as the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states and Pakistan. Weighing 65 tons, the Altay is armed with a 120mm smoothbore gun and two secondary weapons, including 12.7mm heavy machine gun and remote-controlled turret.

[1] “Contract for National Powerpack Development Project Terminated.” MSI Turkish Defence Review. March 2017

[2] Ibid.

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The S-400 deal is similar to THAAD in SK. The missile itself (capability, integration to NATO) is secondary matter. The first and most important matter is Turkey's strategic orientation reflected by the deal. Greece bought S-300 from Cyprus because of Turkey's complaint. It was not an issue for NATO because the buy was not about Greece changing position. However, considering recent events around Turkey and its region, the S-400 is way more of a concern.

Blocking F-35 to Turkey has very high grievance, essentially a NATO divorce with Turkey. It would be the last thing for US to do.

Will US do it? US probably does not want to go that far. But it is certainly willing to do so if Turkey does not compromise. Just look at how far China is willing to go for the THAAD issue. For fundamental strategic interests, there is no bluffing, especially big powers.
 
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The Altay is a Tank I am watching with interest It has some good points and some not so good. Despite what people have claimed it's not a K2 clone. It has some features of the K2 as well as Leopard 2, Abrams and K1. Main gun is a L55 smoothbore, like Abrams 3 Mg's a 12.7mm a 7.62mm coax and a 7.62 mm station for the loader. manually loaded. 40 rounds of 120mm NATO with some in the Bustle Ready rack with blowout panels and some in the hull.
 
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Turkey seeks to buy Harriers as an interim measure until F-35Bs are ready
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Turkey has been seeking to buy an unknown number of Harrier fighters as a stop-gap measure until the F-35B short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) version of the Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is ready for Turkish service, Jane’s has learned from reliable Turkish and Western defence industry sources.

Jane’s earlier reported that Turkey had expressed to the United States its interest in purchasing 19-20 of the F-35B STOVL version. This is in addition to the 100 F-35As it already plans to buy from Lockheed Martin.

Turkey first approached the United Kingdom about the purchase of Harriers but then turned to the United States for the AV-8B in the inventory of the US Marine Corps because the aircraft have not been used by the UK armed forces since 2010.

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Wednesday at 9:12 PM
Jura said:
(dated 06 December 2017)
Turkey seeks to buy Harriers as an interim measure until F-35Bs are ready
oh really?

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Turkey Is Interested in Buying Surplus USMC AV-8B Harriers, Others Likely To Follow
December 6, 2017
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With F-35B production ramping up, the AV-8 Harrier is entering into the twilight of its service with the United States Marine Corps. By most accounts, America's Harrier fleet has quite a bit of life left in it, especially considering Pentagon
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fleet of 74 Harriers, many of which were very young, and all the spare parts that went with them, for cost of roughly 1.35 F-35Bs at today's prices, or a paltry $177M.

As a result, large quantities of surplus Harriers and ample stocks of spare parts are likely to be put up for sale by the DoD in the coming years. Considering the jet's unique short-takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) abilities and its most recent upgrades—in the AV-8B+'s case this includes the ability to execute beyond-visual range air-to-air combat by employing the AIM-120 AMRAAM with their APG-65 radar sets—they represent an attractive and affordable acquisition opportunity for foreign air arms.

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, Turkey is interested in purchasing a number of these soon to be surplus jump-jets to serve as an interim capability before possibly executing an F-35B purchase. This would be in addition to their already sizable F-35A order of 100 airframes. Supposedly Ankara is eyeing somewhere around 20 F-35Bs, so procuring a similar amount of second-hand AV-8Bs makes sense, although we don't know the exact number they are interested in at this time.

Turkey won't likely be the last country interested in America's Harriers. The type could also offer a relatively cheap option for countries wanting to acquire more potent amphibious capabilities, yet alone a proven ground attack platform with rudimentary air-to-air capability as well. Some countries even have amphibious assault ships that may be able to accommodate Harriers. Australia even has their license-built
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, that features a ski jump, but they have no fixed-wing STOVL aircraft capable of using it.

Other countries that put a high value on dispersed and austere operations could also be Harrier bargain hunters. Taiwan in particular could benefit from the Harrier's capabilities and some cash-flush Middle Eastern air arms could also become interested in them in an attempt to reduce their reliance of massive airstrips that would become targets for ballistic missiles and other types of attack in the opening stages of any sort of major conflict.

Countries that have island holdings in disputed areas—namely the South China Sea—
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—could make good use of the Harrier's unique capabilities as well. Other air arms that just want a super competent close air support and interdiction platform could jump on these jump jets too if the price is right. Even sales opportunities in South America are possible.

We'll keep an eye on where this Turkish initiative goes. If it does come to fruition it could be just the start of the international haggling for the rest of the fleet that will come fully available in the coming decade.

One air force's trash is another air forces treasure as they say!
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