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Turkey may remove US radar if F-35s not delivered on schedule
In a bid to dissuade Turkey from going forward with the purchase of the powerful S-400 missile defense system, the U.S. had warned that such a move “would jeopardize the sale of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey.”

November 19, 2017
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As the U.S. and NATO pressure mounts on Turkey to stop the purchase of the powerful S-400 missile system from Russia, the American administration has threatened that it may not go forward with a plan to deliver F-35 fighter jets ordered by Turkey.

In retaliation to the American blackmail, Ankara may take measures of its own in response, atop of which is the possible dismantling of the powerful Malatya- Kürecik AN-TPY-2 radar that was set up by the U.S. in 2012.

In a bid to dissuade Turkey from going forward with the purchase of the powerful S-400 missile defense system, the U.S. had warned that such a move “would jeopardize the sale of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey.”

Ankara has taken the heat for Kürecik radar

In the event that the U.S. violates its agreement with Turkey regarding the F-35 fighter jets deal, this will lead to Israel being widely exposed to ballistic missile threats, as the Kürecik radar, which has been set up with the purpose of detecting any missile fired at Israel, is capable of spotting all types of flying objects or projectiles at high altitudes and at a maximum distance of 1,000 kilometers, which chiefly covers Iran, among other countries in the region.

As part of its agreements with NATO, Turkey has given permission for the deployment of the radar to its territory, much to the dismay of Russia and Iran, who expressed their sharp opposition to such a move.

Faced with growing pressure from Tehran and Moscow for the sake of the security of the NATO alliance, Turkey will not bow to the U.S.’s blackmail attempts by using the S-400 deal as a pretext to renege on the F-35 jets agreement.

Israel will become blind

Thanks to the radar located in Kürecik, the entire western territories of Iran, all the way to the borders of Tehran are visible to NATO. Other radars in the region that boast similar features are located in Israel, Jordan, Qatar and the UAE. However, the range of Israel’s 1300-kilometer radar is only capable of reaching Iran’s borders. The ones set up by the U.S. in Qatar and the UAE, which aren’t part of NATO, are only capable of observing as far as Iran’s southern regions.

In case Turkey decides to dismantle the Kürecik radar in response to the ongoing attempts by the U.S. to use the F-35 jets to blackmail Turkey, Israel will lose its “early warning system” in case of a missile launch from eastern or northern Iran.

Despite the fact that the S-400 missile defense system will run independently from the NATO network, the F-35 jets deal is being used to blackmail Turkey, whose patience is thinning after multiple attempts to block the purchase of the advanced Russian system.

By 2030, Turkey is scheduled to receive a total of 116 fifth generation F-35 fighter jets, parts of which are produced domestically by TAI-TUSAŞ.
 

erlen

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Yenisafak is least reliable newspaper in Turkey... But if F-35s not delivered this will have consequences..Even UAE buy...but not NATO allies for 65 years and partner partner of JSF(f-35) for 15 years..
 

FORBIN

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Yenisafak is least reliable newspaper in Turkey... But if F-35s not delivered this will have consequences..Even UAE buy...but not NATO allies for 65 years and partner partner of JSF(f-35) for 15 years..
On internet i see not all is reliable but some trust all :rolleyes:
Possible F-35B for Turkey ? even in the about 100 planned not in addition...
 

Skywatcher

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At this point, not delivering the F-35s to Turkey would be a very bad idea, because of how deeply Turkey is embedded in the program.

If Turkey doesn't have F-35s, it wouldn't have any incentive not to share all its F-35 information with say, China, in return for some J-31s.
 

manqiangrexue

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At this point, not delivering the F-35s to Turkey would be a very bad idea, because of how deeply Turkey is embedded in the program.

If Turkey doesn't have F-35s, it wouldn't have any incentive not to share all its F-35 information with say, China, in return for some J-31s.
LOL China's not gonna pay J-31s to a country that secretly supports Uighur East Turkistan terrorist wet dreams for some F-35 information that was already hacked years ago.
 
my favorite quote:
Jul 19, 2017
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LOL I wonder how a Military operating both F-35s and Triumphs would fit into the world of various Analysts
I'd be at a total loss

oops now I imagined an exercise which would pitch these weapons against each other
later realized it should be interesting to see which product or products was/were worth the money
 
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Turkey sets timetable for critical phase of its fighter jet program
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Turkey’s defense procurement authorities have given pace to their work to select an engine know-how supplier that will be the backbone of the TF-X, an indigenous Turkish fighter jet in the making.

“We may not hold onto our original target of officially announcing a technology partner (for the engine) in January, but we will come very close to it,” said a senior procurement official familiar with the program.

At the end of October, Turkey’s top procurement official, Ismail Demir, said his office would announce its decision on the TF-X engine in January 2018.

An official from Turkish Aerospace Industries, the prime local contractor for the TF-X program, said talks with a number of potential technology suppliers and their local partners have recently matured enough to give decision-makers a clear picture.

“The idea is to rely on foreign technology in order to build, in the longer term, an indigenous engine that will power the TF-X,” the TAI official said. “I think we are close to an understanding.”

The TF-X program is run by the country’s procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries. But the decision on the engine will be made by the ultimate panel that oversees top procurement decisions ― the Defense Industry Executive Committee, which is chaired by Prime Minister Binali Yildirim.

In October 2016, engine-maker Rolls-Royce offered a joint production partnership to Turkey with a view to powering planned Turkish platforms and potential sales to third parties. The British company’s proposal involved a production unit in Turkey to manufacture engines for the TF-X, as well as for helicopters, tanks and missiles.

A year before that, in October 2015 a memorandum of understanding had been signed between Turkey and Rolls-Royce for technological know-how and a production unit. Under the plan, Rolls-Royce will launch an advanced manufacturing and technology center in Turkey ― the company’s eighth such unit worldwide.

U.S. engine-maker Pratt & Whitney is also in the picture. In 2014, the company inaugurated its Turkish partnership with local aviation company Kale to produce critical engine parts for the multinational new-generation F-35 fighter jet. Kale Pratt & Whitney, the joint venture, will manufacture the parts of the F-135, the engine for the F-35.

Meanwhile, Tusas Engine Industries, a government-controlled engine maker and TAI’s sister company, is currently working to refine a 20-year road map for the design, development and manufacturing of a local aircraft engine, also with the aim of powering the TF-X.

Industry sources say the engine selection is the most critical phase in the TF-X program.

“All other design work will depend on the engine to be selected,” the TAI official said. “Once we have decided on the engine, the rest of the program will automatically gain pace.”
 

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Infographic :
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's Vital Role In JSF F-35 Fighter Program ......

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now US official: If Turkey buys Russian systems, they can’t plug into NATO tech
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while First delivery of Russian S-400 to Turkey set for 2019

22.11.2017
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Nurettin Canikli says Turkey and Russia signed deals for two S-400 air-defense systems, with one optional

Turkey’s national defense minister said on Wednesday that Russia’s first delivery of an air defense system to Turkey is expected in 2019.

Turkey and Russia have signed deals for two S-400 air-defense systems, with one of them optional, Nurettin Canikli told parliament's Planning and Budget Committee.

The S-400 is Russia’s most advanced long-range anti-aircraft missile system and can carry three types of missiles capable of destroying targets, including ballistic and cruise missiles.

"The first delivery of the S-400 air-defense systems is planned to be accomplished in 2019," said Canikli.

The system can track and engage up to 300 targets at a time and has an altitude ceiling of 27 kilometers (17 miles).

Responding to questions by lawmakers on the purchase of the new defense system, he said: "On the one hand, we are purchasing S-400s, on the other hand, we have started developing a similar system with EUROSAM."

Turkey signed an agreement with fellow NATO members France and Italy to develop its national missile defense systems in July.

Turkey's own defense missile system

Turkey’s defense industry and the Franco-Italian Eurosam consortium will work together to determine needs and priorities for potential joint production of a SAMP-T anti-ballistic missile system.

Canikli added that Turkey had made an offer for purchasing U.S.-made Patriot air defense system. "Both for S-400s and Patriots, the negotiations are still continuing."

"Furthermore, Turkey has also started a new platform, a new line which it will develop with its own potential," said Canikli referring to Turkey's own production of defense missile system.

Canikli added that 8,570 FETO-linked personnel have been dismissed from the Turkish Armed Forces since last year's defeated coup attempt.

They include 150 generals, 4,630 army officers, 2,168 sergeants, 1,211 specialized sergeants and 411 civil servants, he said.

FETO and its U.S.-based leader Fetullah Gulen orchestrated the defeated coup attempt of July 15, 2016 which left 250 people martyred and nearly 2,200 injured.

Ankara also accuses FETO of being behind a long-running campaign to overthrow the state through the infiltration of Turkish institutions, particularly the military, police and judiciary.


Turkey's fight with PKK

Canikli drew attention to Turkey's fight with PKK/PYD/YPG terrorist organization.

"Turkey will use its right of intervention based on international law," he said, referring to Turkey's potential transboundary military operations against PKK/PYD.

The PYD and its military wing YPG are Syrian branches of the PKK, which has waged a war against Turkey for more than 30 years.

Since the PKK launched its terror campaign in Turkey in 1984, tens of thousands of people have been killed, including more than 1,200 since July 2015 alone.

The U.S. and the coalition have largely ignored the PYD/PYG links to the PKK, which the U.S., EU and Turkey list as a terrorist group.
 
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