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Andy1974 said:

Are they stringing the Americans on with this supposed F-16 buy when they have this in the pipeline?

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TF-X/MMU isn't going to be available till 2028-29 and no matter how capable they are, both the Kızılelma and Anka-3 can't quite match the capabilities of a manned jet yet either. As such there is a need for a stop-gap aircraft but I don't think it'll materialize due to recent tragic earthquakes.

Andy1974 said:

Are they stringing the Americans on with this supposed F-16 buy when they have this in the pipeline?

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They will need the f110 engines for the TF-X at first until their own project bear fruits with RR, maybe the F-16 are stopgap but also some honey for the engines deal.

Nice try TAI:


Malaysia singed a deal for 18 FA-50.

sequ said:

Nice try TAI:

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Malaysia singed a deal for 18 FA-50.

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I mean Hurjet hasn't even flown yet so that was expected. It's not a shocking development.

Kuzgun-KY (solid fuel) test fired for the first time successfully:





The first firing test of KUZGUN-KY Modular Guided Ammunition, developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE, was successfully carried out in Sinop.

According to the information we have obtained as SavunmaSanayiST.com; The first firing test of KUZGUN-KY, the solid fuel version of KUZGUN, was successfully carried out on Friday, February 24 at the Sinop Shooting Range. There was no warhead, as it was aimed to collect data on the missile within the scope of the fire from the land to the sea.
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On the other hand, work continues for the first shot of KUZGUN-SS, another member of the KUZGUN Family, from AKSUNGUR SİHA. According to the information we have obtained; it's only a matter of time before this shot is made.

CasualObserver said:

I mean Hurjet hasn't even flown yet so that was expected. It's not a shocking development.

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It was worth the try just for the sake of it. Building some confidence, ironing out administrative side for offering the Hurjet and making some publicity.

Turkey is clearly taking big steps lately, it's nive to see new stuff in the competition and flying. Not a lot of propaganda level narcissism and bravado on their technological advance too.

24 ANKA UCAV orders from 3 countries to TAI

ANKA Armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UCAV), developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ), continues its export performance. 3 more countries signed a contract with TAI to supply ANKA UCAV. Thus, the number of countries known to export ANKA has increased to 5.

According to the information obtained by SavunmaSanayiST.com from defense sources; Indonesia, Chad and Algeria decided to procure ANKA UCAV from TAI. Indonesia ordered 12, Algeria 10 and Chad 2 ANKA UCAVs. For this reason, TAI is rapidly increasing the capacity of the ANKA production line. The total amount of 24 ANKA orders from 3 countries is estimated to be more than 500 million dollars.

ANKA's first export customer was Tunisia in 2020. Tunisian Air Force supplied 3 ANKA Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) and 3 Ground Control Stations (YKI) for 80 million USD. The second order from abroad for ANKA came from Kazakhstan, again 3 pieces. Kazakhstan plans to procure 30 more ANKAs and produce them locally with the support of TAI.

On the other hand, Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein announced that they decided to procure ANKA UCAV from TAI. It is estimated that Malaysia will procure 3 to 9 ANKA UCAVs in the first stage.

TAI also continues the export activities of AKSUNGUR UCAV, which it developed over ANKA. At least 2 countries have placed orders for AKSUNGUR so far.

Some important points from an article in DefenceTurkey Magazine issue 120 (behind paywall, $2) about TF-X/MMU written by Ibrahim Sunnetci:

• CDR of prototype aircraft GTU/P0 prototype was completed in 2022. (Flight planned end of 2023)
• GTU/P0 was initially planned for ground tests but decided to make it fly in 2023.
• PDR of Block 10 (or Block 1) aircraft completed as per January 2023. CDR planned to be completed in September 2023.
• Production of 2nd prototype already started (or will start soon).
• TF-X/MMU turn capability is 9g at 15k ft at Mach 0.9, and 4g at 30k ft at Mach 0.9.
• Max payload is 20k lb.
• Service ceiling 55k ft and max altitude is 60k ft.
• Max speed is M 2.0 (previously M 1.8)
• Weight, size and performance of the aircraft aren't set. It is subject to change during the development, testing and production of the various subsystems and the aircraft itself.
• Horizontal stabilizers as big as an F-16 wing (same as F-22) and weighs 235kg.
• F110-GE-129E are expected to be used in Block 10 (delivery 28/29) and Block 20 (delivery 2032) aircraft.
• 40 serial production aircraft planned to be built with F110-GE-129E engines, for this around 100 (including spares) of these engines will be needed. Negotiations with GE and TUSAS/TEI on license production continue.

sequ said:

Some important points from an article in DefenceTurkey Magazine issue 120 (behind paywall, $2) about TF-X/MMU written by Ibrahim Sunnetci:

• CDR of prototype aircraft GTU/P0 prototype was completed in 2022. (Flight planned end of 2023)
• GTU/P0 was initially planned for ground tests but decided to make it fly in 2023.
• PDR of Block 10 (or Block 1) aircraft completed as per January 2023. CDR planned to be completed in September 2023.
• Production of 2nd prototype already started (or will start soon).
• TF-X/MMU turn capability is 9g at 15k ft at Mach 0.9, and 4g at 30k ft at Mach 0.9.
• Max payload is 20k lb.
• Service ceiling 55k ft and max altitude is 60k ft.
• Max speed is M 2.0 (previously M 1.8)
• Weight, size and performance of the aircraft aren't set. It is subject to change during the development, testing and production of the various subsystems and the aircraft itself.
• Horizontal stabilizers as big as an F-16 wing (same as F-22) and weighs 235kg.
• F110-GE-129E are expected to be used in Block 10 (delivery 28/29) and Block 20 (delivery 2032) aircraft.
• 40 serial production aircraft planned to be built with F110-GE-129E engines, for this around 100 (including spares) of these engines will be needed. Negotiations with GE and TUSAS/TEI on license production continue.

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These specifications mentioned above are well-known to be the minimum requirements that were set by the Airforce back in early 2010s for the aircraft to be procurable/servicable enough. They're a bit dated and thus can change with current/future design changes and/or testing results. @Deino

As expected, the roll out of the TF-X has been postponed because of the earthquake. The program itself continues without delay. A new roll out date will be announced soon: