Launched from a combat ready mobile platform. It is a demonstration not a test.
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Launched from a combat ready mobile platform. It is a demonstration not a test.
LMAO what a cheap cop out. You can post anything you want as long as it doesn't violate the rules. And this thread is far from a prime thread so the mods would care less what happens here.
Who or what is 'pmc'?
The Greeks and Egyptians are arming themselves with 4.5 gen platforms with longer ranged air-to-air missiles than the TurAF currently has. The TurAF desperately needs a platform that can restore the balance in the air.
They are helping Turkiye to design a 5th gen fighter since 2018 and are vying to get the engine contract too...
Or perhaps DT is a 17 years old defense magazine and Sunnetci working for/in it for almost 20 years if not longer has gotten himself a large network of insiders that feed him information?
I would say air-to-air is becoming the real shortcoming of the Turkish military. Turkey's PGM arsenal is huge both in variety and quantity for a middle power like Turkey. Helicopter and UCAV fleets are very potent too. So Turkish air-to-ground capabilities are doing good. Turkey's problem is air-to-air which is extremely tech dominated. And the current F-16s are becoming outdated. The Eurofighter can help with that if it can be procured in time and with AESA radars.
I agree with this. British arms industry is not dependable. I am okay with procurement of second hand C-130s and Eurofighters from the UK, though. That would be a quite fast way to procure equipment.
There are pros as well as cons of that kind of involvements. DT will be out of the business long ago without such a network; what i am saying is there are costs of maintaining or being a component of such an ecosystem. I went through DT's publications and most of them are above average and there are some real gems that needs to be discussed upon. However this Eurofighter business is not one of them.
OK. Challenge accepted. It will take some time to compile a decent answer so please be patient.
One of the members quoting from a press release of Airbus. A reliable source IMHO.
I do not see any reason why we should enter in an arms race with egyptians or greeks or iranians. We don't want their lands or resources; we are content that our army is a defensive one with limited offensive capability. F-16 and S-400 combination is pretty much effective for defensive purposes. We are already developing the munitions and radars to boost F16's to 4.5 gen standards (Project Özgür). So why waste resources which could be used much more effectively elsewhere.
I do not agree. TAI personnel has already accumulated a considerable amount of experience in F35 project. Brits are trying to tap into this resource to reduce design costs for tempest. It will only slow down our progress for the benefit of british. The engine talks is a glaring example of why it is a bad idea to deal with UK. They simply refused to share intellectual rights of the new engine and to discuss localization of critical parts. So negotiations froze. By the way Mr. Sünnetçi's article about KTJ 3200 briefly touches this subject and it is one of his better works.
Spanish work will be completed in 2030. Final assembly can be done anywhere but all the electronics and engines will have this supply chain constraints. than add all the inflation that Europa will face for years to come.
I just dont think Turkiye can find new built fighters in next 10 years at reasonable price unless its Chinese.
Stop this babblement guys. Plus, aren't there more important things to discuss, like this new Typhoon missile? While *range-wise* it may not be much compared to what the Iranians have with their higher end products, this missile has already been in the inventory for a couple of years now, it most likely has an anti-ship variant (which means a very very low CEP) and it is essentially a preview of what comes next, the logic states that the next one should be our very first missile with a range of over 1000 kms, i.e. a true MRBM.
TAI has opened a fuel testing facility for HÜRJET.
TAI established the test facility designed with national resources to perform the tests of HURJET's fuel systems. Thus, the fuel system of Turkey's first jet trainer HÜRJET will be safely flown and tested on the ground before the first flight.
In tests to be carried out with HURJET's one-to-one fuel tanks and fuel system; Fuel transfer, filling/discharging, engine feeding and ventilation systems and sealing processes in the aircraft will be tested at this facility. With the experience gained from this facility, which will remain in operation for the life of HÜRJET, work has also begun to establish a new facility where the fuel systems of the National Combat Aircraft will also be tested. The company will also contribute to the design improvements of the platforms as a result of the test data it will obtain from these facilities.
With the facility, which will provide advantages in terms of time and finance, Turkish Aerospace Industries, which gave the company the ability to test aircraft fuel systems, has also developed one of the world's leading facilities in its field with domestic and national resources. Along with the test data to be obtained here, it will be ensured that the aircraft design data remain in our country.
TAI established the test facility designed with national resources to perform the tests of HURJET's fuel systems. Thus, the fuel system of Turkey's first jet trainer HÜRJET will be safely flown and tested on the ground before the first flight.
In tests to be carried out with HURJET's one-to-one fuel tanks and fuel system; Fuel transfer, filling/discharging, engine feeding and ventilation systems and sealing processes in the aircraft will be tested at this facility. With the experience gained from this facility, which will remain in operation for the life of HÜRJET, work has also begun to establish a new facility where the fuel systems of the National Combat Aircraft will also be tested. The company will also contribute to the design improvements of the platforms as a result of the test data it will obtain from these facilities.
With the facility, which will provide advantages in terms of time and finance, Turkish Aerospace Industries, which gave the company the ability to test aircraft fuel systems, has also developed one of the world's leading facilities in its field with domestic and national resources. Along with the test data to be obtained here, it will be ensured that the aircraft design data remain in our country.
Interesting statement of a retired LT Gen of the TurAF, Karakus, saying that Turkiye has had 1000km ranged BM's in the inventory for 25 years now and that that range of the Tayfun BM is much more than 561km. Several years ago, the same general said that Turkiye has 2000km range BM in the inventory. He also says that if Turkiye has a base in Somalia, it could test missiles with a range of 3000km and 4000km.