Trump admin legacy: Poisoning future US China relationship

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Weaasel

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Well north korea is a hermit country with little to lose.

China on the hand has alot more at stakes.

Most officials hide their wealth oversea. If their assets got frozen it would be devastating.

In Chinese culture i believe they said " take my life but dont take my wealth" meaning chinese guy can sacrifice himself but dont take his wealth because he wants to pass his wealth to his children.

Chinese officials may not care for wealth for himself but he like to give somethings to his children and wife.

Thats why alot of internal conflicts inside CCP currently.

This is what China born professor Yu Mao Chun explained to Trump admin regarding to internal thinkings of CCP members.

What Trump willing to do is hit and run. Like how he assasinated Solemani. He can ordered military to do some hit and run against China man made islands from a distance. If China respond too strong then its up to Congress whether to declare war on China.

Both countries have nuclear weapons.
 

gadgetcool5

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China's allies:

iran, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, syria and lebanon.


US' allies:

european union, japan, south korea, india, australia, uk, canada


Not exactly a fair lineup! My opponent is fighting with LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc. on his team and I have some 6th grade students.
 

Biscuits

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Does relationship with US matter that much in the long term?

As proven by the trade war, China only really needs to focus on international stability and they can have improved economy and lead the way in tech development.

America using all of its cards short of military led terror attack against 1 company from China failed to take down that company. Rationally speaking, they have yet to prove their capability to be a real threat. Like some Chinese politician once said, they "hurt the feelings of the people", no actual impact on Chinese life quality, just causes feelings of injustice and worry on the Internet when people read about their insane and discriminatory behaviors.

China not only enjoys having a larger economy but the economy it has is of much healthier make, much more of it can be used effectively for projects and to improve life quality compared to countries that have huge GDP tied up in stock market speculation.

The threat USA presents towards China is ironically very much like what the USSR presented to America. Military and covert operation only.
 

Hendrik_2000

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China's allies:

iran, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, syria and lebanon.


US' allies:

european union, japan, south korea, india, australia, uk, canada


Not exactly a fair lineup! My opponent is fighting with LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc. on his team and I have some 6th grade students.
It was back then now the odd is even worse god forbid the S^%6 hit the fan

It does not help them in Korea war when China alone halt the UN forces plus US and 5 eyes countries. so what good is having those allies It is more of burden because you spend money to defend them
 
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Weaasel

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China's allies:

iran, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, syria and lebanon.


US' allies:

european union, japan, south korea, india, australia, uk, canada


Not exactly a fair lineup! My opponent is fighting with LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc. on his team and I have some 6th grade students.

Why are you so obsessed with alliances? China can continue to develop successfully with an increased focus on its domestic market. It can make many important STEM field breakthrough without having those countries as allies.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Why are you so obsessed with alliances? China can continue to develop successfully with an increased focus on its domestic market. It can make many important STEM field breakthrough without having those countries as allies.

Because he is brainwashed by western MSM that show China is nobody I am not sure if that is true ,like they always claim ASEAN dislike China or afraid of China But fact on the ground said otherwise ASEAN is China biggest trade partner and they have lived with the Chinese for hundreds of years with no one lift a finger on them.
I have to say that western MSM is loud and has chronic liar

Mahathir said it best when he said Malaysia does not afraid of China because we know China for hundreds of year, They never colonize Malaysia when they could
 

hullopilllw

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Him and his hawks want future US admins to maintain cold war mentality toward China.

I read one of key architecture of Trump anti China drive is China born professor Yu Mao Chun, who works very closely with Pompeo.

The declaration of China illegal claim on entire South China Sea including both spratley and paracel island is designed to prevent reconciliation between future US admin and China.

At Yorba Linda Nixon library , Pompeo delivered a a speech which is a rejection and overturn of Nixon 's 1972 historic opening with China also added to that.

So with those 2 acts, China and US relationship changed forever and prevent future US and China reconciliation.

A new chapter has begun

As China forging forward toward the west all the way. to persian gulf and middle east. ready to form alliance with head of shia muslims , iran.

Mentality will be different this time. No longer view iran only chess piece but rather core alliance as the new anti-US axis. Russia is not so trust worthy as it is too close to india.

China ready to transform iran , ready to pass on its military and commercial tech. Hopefully seed will spread and iran can be key torch bearer. Iran is very eager to learn from China.

China, iran, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, syria and lebanon.

How much GDP does the latter 6 generate combined ? Ops
 

nastya1

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China's allies:

iran, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, syria and lebanon.


US' allies:

european union, japan, south korea, india, australia, uk, canada


Not exactly a fair lineup! My opponent is fighting with LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc. on his team and I have some 6th grade students.

Alot of US allies are being forced upon by US. They did it half heartedly.

China alone by itself already almost able to resist US and all its allies to a standstill. Almost but few weaknesses.

If it form alliance with others it can finally solidify its defensive position to being indestructible.
They will finally able to carve out a large domain that will free of US and its allies influence.

Notice i use the word defensive position in their own domain.
I didnt say China and its allies will dominate US and its allies in all domains
 
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